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RE: Goals and Storytelling

Well, Dark Side, it's hard to stem solely on a specific mechanic. Because with the idea you gave, you became a bit hypocritical... You claim gameplay > story when development is first thought of. And I agree with you to some extent, because I would like to have a game I can really play over and over and enjoy (such as Left 4 Dead or even Killing Floor), and they have a small universe built on story. They are games meant for fun and good times. This seems like what you are more interested in to me, based on everything I have read you saying. A game with enough motive to get you moving, but that keeps you active while playing. But this is where you get a bit hypocritical... You claim modern shooters such as CoD as bad, but to my knowledge, they are more focused on gameplay than storyline, are they not? The updates on their upcoming releases are mostly focused on multiplayer and gameplay. Yet you say you don't like them. I understand you don't like their mechanics, but the idea is the same. This part is leaving me confused about your interests...

But I agree with you a bit. I enjoy memorable gameplay, because if you go back to the beginnings of games, they were made for entertainment and fun. They hardly, if at all, told a story (Pac-Man, Tetris, Pitfall, Space Invaders, etc.) and it seems story is hogging the spotlight at times. I remember and replay many of the opposite types of games because they're just so damn fun! Games like L4D2, Killing Floor, Mirror's Edge (So good. SUCH challenging Time Trials, I dare you to do them =P), Sanctum, Payday: The Heist, TF2, etc. These are my most played games on steam. And it seems all are based upon gameplay more than story. So you win my vote there. This is why games like Dear Esther (Sorry TCR!), disappointed me a bit. I would much rather have a game I could play over and over than one I could enjoy one time. Thankfully Amnesia supports Custom Stories and FCs, so I have the opportunity to replay the game every once in awhile. In fact, I've only played through the campaign once.

But some people enjoy a good story. Without a good story, they feel duped. Look at games like Halo, Mass Effect, Assassin's Creed, etc. They're big because their stories are vast. And they're popular because of it.

It's really a matter of taste and preference dark side. It's not that FG is going to destroy their gameplay designs, they just figure without a convincing story, what is the purpose of creating a game in the first place?

(01-27-2013, 08:42 PM)the dark side Wrote: and why, praytell do you disagree? "no, just no" just doesnt cut it i am afraid. if you are going to disagree with my statements, i would like to know Why you disagree, i told Thomas why, for the first time ever, i disagree with his.. so why cant you tell me why you disagree with my statements?. when i take the time to give an argument in favour of gameplay over story to counter an argument for Storyline over Gameplay, i do appreciate people taking the time to dissect the post and post counter arguments as i did with Thomas's Original Blog, bot just post "no, just no" as if this was twitter, it just looks so,... trollish, i KNOW for a fact you are not a troll lucke, so kindly dont post like one, its below you! and hopefully also below everyone else on these here forums.


That doesn't even make him a troll in the first place.
(This post was last modified: 01-27-2013, 08:50 PM by Statyk.)
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Goals and Storytelling - by Thomas - 01-21-2013, 02:35 PM
RE: Goals and Storytelling - by plutomaniac - 01-21-2013, 03:46 PM
RE: Goals and Storytelling - by Gunslingerjh - 01-21-2013, 04:40 PM
RE: Goals and Storytelling - by plutomaniac - 01-21-2013, 05:04 PM
RE: Goals and Storytelling - by Thomas - 01-21-2013, 10:47 PM
RE: Goals and Storytelling - by Nyarlathotep - 01-21-2013, 11:01 PM
RE: Goals and Storytelling - by plutomaniac - 01-21-2013, 11:14 PM
RE: Goals and Storytelling - by the dark side - 01-27-2013, 08:22 PM
RE: Goals and Storytelling - by Wooderson - 01-27-2013, 08:35 PM
RE: Goals and Storytelling - by the dark side - 01-27-2013, 08:42 PM
RE: Goals and Storytelling - by Wooderson - 01-27-2013, 08:51 PM
RE: Goals and Storytelling - by Statyk - 01-27-2013, 08:45 PM
RE: Goals and Storytelling - by Statyk - 01-27-2013, 08:58 PM
RE: Goals and Storytelling - by the dark side - 01-27-2013, 09:02 PM
RE: Goals and Storytelling - by Statyk - 01-27-2013, 09:12 PM
RE: Goals and Storytelling - by the dark side - 01-27-2013, 09:19 PM
RE: Goals and Storytelling - by Statyk - 01-27-2013, 09:22 PM
RE: Goals and Storytelling - by the dark side - 01-27-2013, 09:23 PM
RE: Goals and Storytelling - by Statyk - 01-27-2013, 09:24 PM
RE: Goals and Storytelling - by MyRedNeptune - 01-27-2013, 09:27 PM
RE: Goals and Storytelling - by the dark side - 01-27-2013, 09:39 PM
RE: Goals and Storytelling - by Statyk - 01-27-2013, 09:52 PM
RE: Goals and Storytelling - by the dark side - 01-27-2013, 10:00 PM
RE: Goals and Storytelling - by Kman - 01-27-2013, 11:10 PM
RE: Goals and Storytelling - by Statyk - 01-27-2013, 11:54 PM
RE: Goals and Storytelling - by Wooderson - 01-28-2013, 02:23 AM
RE: Goals and Storytelling - by Kman - 01-28-2013, 02:33 AM
RE: Goals and Storytelling - by Ghieri - 01-28-2013, 04:04 AM
RE: Goals and Storytelling - by the dark side - 01-28-2013, 07:58 PM
RE: Goals and Storytelling - by Kman - 01-29-2013, 12:11 AM
RE: Goals and Storytelling - by Ghieri - 01-29-2013, 01:38 AM
RE: Goals and Storytelling - by rtjhbfvsrry - 02-01-2013, 07:13 PM
RE: Goals and Storytelling - by the dark side - 02-01-2013, 08:13 PM
RE: Goals and Storytelling - by rtjhbfvsrry - 02-03-2013, 10:21 PM
RE: Goals and Storytelling - by Kman - 02-02-2013, 12:07 AM
RE: Goals and Storytelling - by the dark side - 02-02-2013, 04:59 PM
RE: Goals and Storytelling - by Kman - 02-02-2013, 10:54 PM
RE: Goals and Storytelling - by Ghieri - 02-03-2013, 09:54 PM
RE: Goals and Storytelling - by the dark side - 02-03-2013, 11:25 PM
RE: Goals and Storytelling - by Adny - 02-03-2013, 11:42 PM
RE: Goals and Storytelling - by Mine Turtle - 02-04-2013, 12:00 AM
RE: Goals and Storytelling - by rtjhbfvsrry - 02-05-2013, 12:13 PM
RE: Goals and Storytelling - by Miss Rigi - 02-03-2013, 11:48 PM
RE: Goals and Storytelling - by Miss Rigi - 02-04-2013, 12:20 AM
RE: Goals and Storytelling - by Ghieri - 02-04-2013, 01:56 AM
RE: Goals and Storytelling - by the dark side - 02-04-2013, 08:07 PM
RE: Goals and Storytelling - by Ghieri - 02-05-2013, 02:06 AM
RE: Goals and Storytelling - by the dark side - 02-05-2013, 03:43 PM
RE: Goals and Storytelling - by rtjhbfvsrry - 02-05-2013, 07:50 PM
RE: Goals and Storytelling - by Kman - 02-05-2013, 08:40 PM
RE: Goals and Storytelling - by Mine Turtle - 02-06-2013, 01:02 PM
RE: Goals and Storytelling - by rtjhbfvsrry - 02-05-2013, 09:04 PM
RE: Goals and Storytelling - by Kman - 02-05-2013, 11:38 PM
RE: Goals and Storytelling - by Ghieri - 02-07-2013, 07:07 PM
RE: Goals and Storytelling - by the dark side - 02-08-2013, 07:39 PM
RE: Goals and Storytelling - by Adrianis - 02-09-2013, 06:09 PM



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