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Amnesia: A Machine For Pigs Discussion Topic Part 1
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RE: Amnesia: A Machine For Pigs Discussion

Kein Wrote:Re-read my post. I was talking about Dear Esther in a first part.
I'm sorry, I thought you were referring to all those wild speculations going on in this thread in general. (That's why I was so surprised) Please disregard what I said Smile

Bridge Wrote:In my opinion, [...] art isat its core communication. An artist's highest aspiration (in my opinion) is to communicate something which he thinks is worthwhile to his audience and by doing so somehow improving their lives or at least leaving them with knowledge or experience they did not have beforehand.
Quote: However, I think there can be no doubt when you are dealing with fragments of a story that appear in random order. It is not thought out at all and is intended to be confusing.
Yes, it is indeed intended to be confusing. Have you heard the talk Dan gave at the GDC Europe about Dear Esther? I think you might find it interesting...Here's the link that got posted eons ago in this very thread. Can't find the actual video right now tho...hm. maybe I 'll stumble across it later.

Basically, what he's saying there is that Dear Esther has no message. It has no "right" interpretation and he never had a complete, coherent story in mind when writing and arranging the monologue snippets.
This is because the intention behind the experiment was not to have the player passively listen to a story or make him unravel some mystery with a predefined answer. Instead he merely wanted to inspire the player to come up with his own story. I think he calls it a "toolbox" in the talk. Just how you can give someone colors and make him paint his own painting, or a physics engine to play around with, he was giving the player snippets of hints and metaphors, so he could form his own version of what happened.
That's also why the texts are placed semi-randomly (not entirely randomly though), so that there could be many variations and every player could come up with a unique story that was his own creation.

I think I remember him jokingly calling Dear Esther a "story-Minecraft" in that talk... Big Grin

So yeah, what I'm saying is, you can of course think that experiment is a dumb/pointless/pretentious/whatever one, but you can't deny that it succeeded in a way: I have never heard two interpretations of Dear Esther that were exactly the same. Big Grin (Personally, I found the experience quite engaging... it felt kinda like a creative brain-exercise. Unlike Braid, which was even more cryptic but had a predefined interpretation. That was pretentious as hell in my opinion! ^^)
Eh... maybe we should open a Dear Esther thread instead. I'm starting to feel kinda bad, adding to this already bloated-as-hell thread.
(This post was last modified: 12-17-2012, 08:54 PM by xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.)
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RE: Amnesia: A Machine For Pigs Discussion - by xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx - 12-17-2012, 08:35 PM
Amnesia: a machine for pigs? - by Danny Boy - 02-26-2012, 03:12 PM
RE: Amnesia: a machine for pigs? - by Googolplex - 02-26-2012, 06:06 PM
RE: Amnesia: a machine for pigs? - by Tanshaydar - 02-26-2012, 11:25 PM
RE: Amnesia: a machine for pigs? - by Exostalker - 02-27-2012, 09:07 PM
RE: Amnesia: a machine for pigs? - by Dark Knight - 02-27-2012, 10:31 PM
RE: Amnesia: a machine for pigs? - by nemesis567 - 02-27-2012, 10:37 PM
RE: Mikko Tarmia for AAMFP? - by Nyarlathotep - 04-24-2012, 10:19 AM
RE: Mikko Tarmia for AAMFP? - by kartanonperuna - 04-24-2012, 12:59 PM
RE: Mikko Tarmia for AAMFP? - by Googolplex - 04-24-2012, 04:59 PM
RE: Mikko Tarmia for AAMFP? - by eliasfrost - 04-24-2012, 05:13 PM
RE: Mikko Tarmia for AAMFP? - by Electra - 04-24-2012, 05:16 PM
RE: Mikko Tarmia for AAMFP? - by nemesis567 - 04-24-2012, 05:17 PM
RE: Mikko Tarmia for AAMFP? - by eliasfrost - 04-24-2012, 05:23 PM
RE: Mikko Tarmia for AAMFP? - by Traggey - 04-24-2012, 06:55 PM
RE: Mikko Tarmia for AAMFP? - by GrAVit - 04-25-2012, 10:14 PM
RE: Mikko Tarmia for AAMFP? - by Khyrpa - 04-25-2012, 10:42 PM
RE: Mikko Tarmia for AAMFP? - by GrAVit - 04-25-2012, 11:05 PM
RE: Mikko Tarmia for AAMFP? - by Khyrpa - 04-26-2012, 12:13 AM
RE: Mikko Tarmia for AAMFP? - by Kman - 04-26-2012, 12:47 AM
RE: Mikko Tarmia for AAMFP? - by Nyarlathotep - 04-26-2012, 12:54 AM
RE: Mikko Tarmia for AAMFP? - by Patacorow - 04-26-2012, 01:15 AM
RE: Mikko Tarmia for AAMFP? - by Kman - 04-26-2012, 02:17 AM
RE: Mikko Tarmia for AAMFP? - by Gunslingerjh - 04-27-2012, 08:46 AM
RE: Mikko Tarmia for AAMFP? - by samueljustice00 - 04-28-2012, 10:24 PM
RE: Mikko Tarmia for AAMFP? - by GrAVit - 04-28-2012, 10:46 PM
RE: Mikko Tarmia for AAMFP? - by RawkBandMan - 04-29-2012, 04:50 AM
RE: Mikko Tarmia for AAMFP? - by Adny - 04-29-2012, 04:55 AM
RE: Mikko Tarmia for AAMFP? - by Juby - 04-29-2012, 08:28 PM
RE: Mikko Tarmia for AAMFP? - by Chrysler - 05-02-2012, 10:02 AM
RE: Mikko Tarmia for AAMFP? - by TGST - 05-03-2012, 03:49 PM
Custom stories with Machine for Pigs? - by X4anco - 05-06-2012, 08:25 PM
A Machine For Pigs Trailer?? - by xPICKLEMONSTER - 06-13-2012, 08:44 PM
RE: A Machine For Pigs Trailer?? - by Traggey - 06-13-2012, 08:45 PM
Machine for pigs trailer out :D - by Tesseract - 06-15-2012, 11:47 AM
Amnesia: A Machine for Pigs teaser - by Rapture - 06-15-2012, 05:18 PM
RE: AAMFP - custom story compatibility? - by Adny - 07-23-2012, 03:44 AM
AAMFP - lantern or flashlight? - by Deep One - 08-04-2012, 10:20 AM
RE: AAMFP - lantern or flashlight? - by Lasmik - 08-04-2012, 11:57 AM
RE: AAMFP - lantern or flashlight? - by Traggey - 08-04-2012, 12:03 PM
RE: AAMFP - lantern or flashlight? - by Traggey - 08-04-2012, 12:52 PM
RE: AAMFP - lantern or flashlight? - by Deep One - 08-04-2012, 02:37 PM
RE: AAMFP - lantern or flashlight? - by Deep One - 08-04-2012, 06:12 PM
RE: AAMFP - lantern or flashlight? - by Bridge - 08-04-2012, 07:13 PM
RE: AAMFP - lantern or flashlight? - by Lucas - 08-04-2012, 07:46 PM
RE: AAMFP - lantern or flashlight? - by Deep One - 08-04-2012, 08:14 PM
RE: AAMFP - lantern or flashlight? - by Traggey - 08-04-2012, 08:16 PM
RE: AAMFP - lantern or flashlight? - by Traggey - 08-04-2012, 10:12 PM
RE: AAMFP - lantern or flashlight? - by GrAVit - 08-05-2012, 01:28 AM
RE: AAMFP - lantern or flashlight? - by GrAVit - 08-05-2012, 02:14 AM
RE: AAMFP - lantern or flashlight? - by zaggnut - 08-05-2012, 05:12 AM
RE: AAMFP - lantern or flashlight? - by spukrian - 08-05-2012, 02:28 PM
RE: AAMFP - lantern or flashlight? - by Statyk - 08-05-2012, 05:50 PM
RE: AAMFP - lantern or flashlight? - by Deep One - 08-05-2012, 06:10 PM
RE: AAMFP - lantern or flashlight? - by Deep One - 08-05-2012, 08:51 PM
RE: AAMFP - lantern or flashlight? - by Rapture - 08-06-2012, 03:50 AM
RE: AAMFP - lantern or flashlight? - by linus22 - 08-07-2012, 08:58 AM
RE: AAMFP - lantern or flashlight? - by Deep One - 08-08-2012, 07:49 PM
RE: AAMFP - lantern or flashlight? - by Traggey - 08-08-2012, 11:16 PM
RE: AAMFP - lantern or flashlight? - by spukrian - 08-09-2012, 12:05 AM
RE: AAMFP - lantern or flashlight? - by Deep One - 08-10-2012, 06:17 AM
RE: AAMFP - lantern or flashlight? - by darkely - 08-10-2012, 12:59 PM
RE: AAMFP - lantern or flashlight? - by spukrian - 08-10-2012, 07:08 PM
RE: AAMFP - lantern or flashlight? - by darkely - 08-10-2012, 07:32 PM
RE: AAMFP - lantern or flashlight? - by darkely - 08-10-2012, 07:43 PM
RE: AAMFP - lantern or flashlight? - by darkely - 08-10-2012, 08:00 PM
RE: AAMFP - lantern or flashlight? - by Deep One - 08-10-2012, 08:16 PM
Pigs and level doors.. - by raptorhunter6 - 08-14-2012, 09:25 PM
RE: Pigs and level doors.. - by lolmaster - 08-14-2012, 09:28 PM
RE: Pigs and level doors.. - by Obliviator27 - 08-14-2012, 09:31 PM
RE: Pigs and level doors.. - by Traggey - 08-14-2012, 09:37 PM
RE: Pigs and level doors.. - by Bridge - 08-15-2012, 12:20 AM
RE: Pigs and level doors.. - by Froge - 08-15-2012, 12:34 AM
RE: Pigs and level doors.. - by raptorhunter6 - 08-15-2012, 07:46 AM
RE: Pigs and level doors.. - by Potato - 08-15-2012, 09:50 AM
RE: Pigs and level doors.. - by cantremember - 08-15-2012, 10:05 AM
RE: Pigs and level doors.. - by Janiel - 08-15-2012, 10:51 AM
RE: Pigs and level doors.. - by Damascus Rose - 08-15-2012, 06:45 PM
RE: Pigs and level doors.. - by Zaffre - 08-15-2012, 07:43 PM
RE: Pigs and level doors.. - by Streetboat - 08-15-2012, 09:48 PM
RE: Pigs and level doors.. - by lolmaster - 08-15-2012, 09:51 PM
RE: Pigs and level doors.. - by Traggey - 08-15-2012, 09:52 PM
RE: Pigs and level doors.. - by Streetboat - 08-15-2012, 10:01 PM
lol fag - by Damascus Rose - 08-15-2012, 10:33 PM
RE: Pigs and level doors.. - by Froge - 08-15-2012, 11:31 PM
RE: Pigs and level doors.. - by failedALIAS - 08-16-2012, 03:12 AM
RE: Pigs and level doors.. - by skyhawk02 - 08-16-2012, 07:27 AM
RE: Pigs and level doors.. - by Statyk - 08-16-2012, 07:42 AM
RE: Pigs and level doors.. - by Traggey - 08-16-2012, 08:01 AM
RE: Pigs and level doors.. - by raptorhunter6 - 08-16-2012, 06:38 PM
RE: Pigs and level doors.. - by Gaviao - 08-18-2012, 06:12 PM
RE: Pigs and level doors.. - by lolmaster - 08-18-2012, 06:29 PM
RE: Pigs and level doors.. - by Potato - 08-18-2012, 08:00 PM
A Machine for pigs! - by SkyBone - 08-23-2012, 09:49 AM
RE: AAMFP - lantern or flashlight? - by Zolastar - 09-22-2012, 11:41 PM
RE: Improving monsters - by Zaffre - 10-23-2012, 03:06 AM
RE: Improving monsters - by darkely - 10-23-2012, 03:09 AM
RE: Improving monsters - by Zaffre - 10-23-2012, 03:41 AM
RE: Improving monsters - by GrAVit - 10-23-2012, 05:47 AM
RE: Improving monsters - by Piacesi - 10-23-2012, 10:48 AM
RE: Improving monsters - by xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx - 10-23-2012, 11:28 AM
RE: Improving monsters - by Kreekakon - 10-23-2012, 11:44 AM
RE: Improving monsters - by FlawlessHappiness - 10-23-2012, 12:38 PM
RE: Improving monsters - by xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx - 10-23-2012, 03:09 PM
RE: Improving monsters - by Deep One - 10-23-2012, 03:57 PM
RE: Improving monsters - by Piacesi - 10-23-2012, 04:41 PM
RE: Improving monsters - by CorinthianMerchant - 10-23-2012, 05:12 PM
RE: Improving monsters - by Kreekakon - 10-23-2012, 05:18 PM
RE: Improving monsters - by Piacesi - 10-23-2012, 05:24 PM
RE: Improving monsters - by Kreekakon - 10-23-2012, 05:29 PM
RE: Improving monsters - by Piacesi - 10-23-2012, 05:57 PM
RE: Improving monsters - by MyRedNeptune - 10-23-2012, 08:25 PM
RE: Improving monsters - by Piacesi - 10-23-2012, 09:48 PM
Dishonored or A Machine For Pigs? - by Zaffre - 10-26-2012, 10:58 PM
RE: Dishonored or A Machine For Pigs? - by Potato - 10-27-2012, 12:04 AM
RE: Dishonored or A Machine For Pigs? - by Bridge - 10-27-2012, 12:15 AM
RE: Dishonored or A Machine For Pigs? - by Zaffre - 10-27-2012, 12:47 AM
RE: Dishonored or A Machine For Pigs? - by Bridge - 10-27-2012, 01:35 AM
RE: Dishonored or A Machine For Pigs? - by Zaffre - 10-27-2012, 01:52 AM
RE: Dishonored or A Machine For Pigs? - by Melvin - 10-27-2012, 02:10 AM
RE: Dishonored or A Machine For Pigs? - by Froge - 10-27-2012, 10:54 PM
RE: Dishonored or A Machine For Pigs? - by Bridge - 10-28-2012, 01:58 PM
RE: Dishonored or A Machine For Pigs? - by WALP - 10-28-2012, 02:47 PM
RE: Dishonored or A Machine For Pigs? - by Bridge - 10-28-2012, 08:40 PM
RE: Dishonored or A Machine For Pigs? - by Froge - 10-28-2012, 08:42 PM
RE: Dishonored or A Machine For Pigs? - by Zaffre - 10-28-2012, 11:02 PM
RE: Dishonored or A Machine For Pigs? - by Arvuti - 10-31-2012, 07:42 PM
Questions about AAMFP - by Artyom - 12-19-2012, 10:46 PM
RE: So... what's going on with AAMFP? - by Adny - 01-19-2013, 02:10 AM
RE: So... what's going on with AAMFP? - by Kman - 01-19-2013, 04:28 AM
RE: So... what's going on with AAMFP? - by Adny - 01-19-2013, 04:53 AM
RE: So... what's going on with AAMFP? - by Statyk - 01-19-2013, 06:44 AM
Aamfp question mark - by Coldy - 01-25-2013, 09:22 PM
RE: Aamfp question mark - by Statyk - 01-25-2013, 09:42 PM
Amnesia: A Machine For Pigs in 3D ? - by Vonicon - 02-19-2013, 02:04 PM
Machine for Pigs - fan story - by Damascus - 03-02-2013, 01:31 AM
RE: Machine for Pigs - fan story - by Froge - 03-02-2013, 03:14 AM
RE: Amnesia: A Machine For Pigs in 3D ? - by 3dge - 03-08-2013, 05:14 PM
RE: Machine for Pigs - fan story - by Gharren - 03-08-2013, 07:20 PM
RE: Machine for Pigs - fan story - by AdamD - 03-08-2013, 09:44 PM
RE: Machine for Pigs - fan story - by failedALIAS - 03-08-2013, 10:28 PM
RE: Machine for Pigs - fan story - by jiersk - 03-09-2013, 01:43 AM
Hopes for A machine for pigs - by jglitch - 03-21-2013, 08:43 PM
RE: Hopes for A machine for pigs - by bluel0bster - 03-21-2013, 10:34 PM



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