POLITICS

[Cuyir]

@Schidlersleest:

You're ignoring very prominent aspects of society that are barely ''held'' back by having a structured government. If the entity that is a government and its many branches would say ''fuck off, we're going to be in our bunkers'' the amount of chaos would reach almost hilarious levels. With laws and governments and all that we still end up behaving pretty inhumanly to each other. Just pay attention at Black Friday in the States soon, a really small and ''innocent'' example of human behavior with rules and guidelines.

You say anarchism ends and another government then rises from the ashes of the old. What then? You didn't really answer my question.

Lets say i'm a diabetic (i'm not). I have daily reminders of how shitty it is and what I have to do to make sure I don't get smacked upside the head by it. I have to watch my diet, I have to make sure to take my medication, make sure I eat, make sure I have quick snacks handy whenever I need them. It's a daily reality. That's how I see a government as. Obviously this is a pretty poor analogy but it sort of works.

If anarchism's only point is to topple the old and support the new then where's the progress? The group that wins out in the end will almost always be the one that is colder, better armed, more manipulative and more adjectives in that vein (look at history). I get the feeling that you view anarchism as an ideal but not a very practical ideal. Just a little speculative fantasy. That's what i'm getting. That and some serious distrust of governments. Considering their track record i'm not surprised.

Are governments flawed? Yes. Some are halfway decent, some are ok, some are quite harmless and others are the sort of governments that get anarchists up in a tizzy. But toppling it through chaos to install a government that was forged by chaos seems like 5 steps back and 2 steps forward.

I'm not saying we should all bow down to our rulers, bend over and take it like "responsible" citizens. I'm just saying you can live within a government without either having to be a pawn or a chest thumping would be revolutionary. There are many middle grounds.

And I'd like to reiterate that there hasn't been a government anywhere (from my very limited point of view, which I share with other people such as yourself) that i've liked but I can live under them without ''losing'' myself and becoming a pawn/sheep/whatever lingo people are using now.