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[failedALIAS]

I don't get it. We do not need an "intelligent civillization" to discover math. We did it on our own.

Secondly it's not the math that failed, it's you that you didn't use them correctly. The math are right.

But that's WHAT I'M SAYING! The math is simply a projection of our own understanding, put into practice! If our understanding is flawed, then the math that results shall be equally so! You cannot use a mathematical genius to preach how perfect the formulas are, without understanding how they crumble in the hands of an idiot!

Without a being to wield it, how is a sword useful at all? The same goes for these "Pre-existing Formulas" you stutter on about; they are useless without someone to use and understand them!

Again it's not math that is wrong. IT'S US WHO ARE USING THEM WRONG!
Also the only thing that can be wrong about math is the most basic rules which aren't proved. For example 1+1 = 2 isn't proved. You think it is true and with that in mind you prove other stuff. Well if you don't agree with that what can I say, FAIL.

IT'S LIKE YOU'RE NOT EVEN READIN IT, HUH!? You could be using a gun, and trying to stop someone from killing you, but instead of shooting them in the chest or head, you hit the artery in their thigh. You did what you intended to do, but technically the gun was being used incorrectly. Guns were made to kill, not wound. Does this mean the gun is flawed? No, but the concept and idea behind it's existence is.

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This looks like an extremely interesting argument, especially since failedALIAS is in it. But I don't want to read through all 20+ pages to see what's going on. Can anyone summarize?

I think what he's saying is that Mathematics is a naturally existent process that we humans discovered. That mathematics is perfect and whatever.

What I'm saying is that it was an invention by human beings, to solve complex and simple problems. That mathematics is only as great as we allow it to be.