Bioshock Infinite

[the dark side]

@ aldigheri. thats what i tried to say. The problem is, as i said, that market who will be more objective and will judge Infinate by its own merits, is very, very small. 2 million, tops, at least 8 million short of "sustainable fiqures".
As you said, the market for this game is bioshock fans (like Myself), and i also get a strong feeling they wont be impressed (like im not), just look at the youtube video comments if you dont beleive me, now, this selected comment is NOT mine, but, it sums up my feelings exactly "thats not bioshock! thats call of duty pretending to be bioshock, do not want!". i think most of the old bioshock fans will feel the same.

trust me, i think take 2 is going to loose a shedload of money on this game. thats game over. i know how businessmen operate, "unsustainable asset, YOUR FIRED!" bye bye bioshock, bye bye irrational.

@nackidno. sorry this is 24 hours late, i spent most of yesterday in bed ill, but, how in the hades is infinate anything like bioshock 1?,, you want to know why i think Infinate is a copy-paste of any modern shooter, especially a certain activision franchise, ill tell you!

The only gameplay Bioshock 1 and infinate have in common are the RPG elements and the first person perspective.

ok, as I am primarily an "if it moves, you kill it" kind of gamer, i shall use the mechanics that are central to that gameplay style, Health System, Level Design, Armoury, Crosshairs, Hip Accuracy, and Precision aiming system.

Health:
Bioshock: Medikit based, you get hurt, you stay hurt until you find or use a medikit. Copy-Paste Half Life (no problemo, half life is a game worth cloning)
Infinate: Automatic Regeneration: take cover when the screen goes red and wait for the jelly to go away, Copy-Paste COD/Battlefield (post BC2)

Level design:
Bioshock: semi open, a combination of linearic corridors and open arenas with multiple levels and paths allowing you to get the drop on the enemy, Vital if there is a Big Daddy in the room!- Copy-Paste: Goldeneye 64 (again, worth copying)
Infinate: linearic streamlined straight line corridor. copy paste: Pretty much any FPS made after 2005.

Armoury:
Bioshock: you find it, you can carry it, wheel selection, guns can be customised.. Copy-Paste, any FPS before 2002 albiet without the innovation of gun customiseation.
Infinate: 2 weapon slots. swap and change. guns cannot be customised. Copy Paste: COD/Battlefield.

Crosshairs:
Bioshock: static, point and shoot. Copy-Paste: any proper FPS
Infinate: Expanding, cant hit the broadside of a barn. Copy-Paste, COD/Battelfield.

Hip Accuracy:
Bioshock: Very high, circle straffe like a maniac at full running speed, and subtracting for a weapons mechanical innacuracy, youll still land about 80% of the magazine on whoever is in the crosshairs: copy-Paste: any FPS from before "Operation: Flashpoint".
Infinate: Extremely low, unless you are crouched, stationary, and in ADS, your not going to hit the broadside of a Victor 3 Podlovka!- Copy-Paste: COD/ Battlefield.

Precision Aim:
Bioshock: none, just run and gun= Fun! Copy Paste: any proper FPS from Wolfenstein 3d to Hard Reset.
Infinate: Aim Down Sites,, Copy Paste: any FPS since COD-2 made ADS popular.

so again, how the heck is infinate anything like Bioshock 1?

Bioshock 1 was a proper, traditional FPS, but with a massive brain, as a result, i hold it in very high regard, VERY High Regard Indeed. With infinate, it seems to have more in common with Call Of Duty and other "modern shooters" (an inferior sub genre that thankfully appears to be coming of the rails as of late) in terms of its mechanics, and they are mechanics i cannot stand and refuse to tolerate as they have No Place in over 90% of games, they are just used to try and xerox the appeal of the "big 3" franchises, a pointless exercise. they have there place, yes, but, Bioshock isnt one of them.

And before anyone comes in here running off about "but its more realistic" so what? come on, it is set on a floating city with cyborgs in it, in NINETEEN FIVETEEN! so why on Earth does it need to have any realism in it at all? Yes, realism has its place in gaming, but that place is Operation Flashpoint, ARMA, Battlefield online, etc, Not a sci fi fantasty game like Bioshock! There is only one place were a lack of realism in FPS gets my goat into a coat, and thats if the guns are wrong, because they are constantly in your schnozz, so they cant be ignored. And thats it.

Sorry, i predict a flop with this one, they've aimed it at a market that is simply not going to be interested in the majority, as its not got one of the 3 big franchise names on it, and if i know the old Bioshock fans the way i think i do, the majority are going to flip there lids at the moderniseation, and the Shocking Dumbing Down of the nostrums and vigors into simple "power ups", its not what appeals the majority of older gamers, its franchise suicide.

hey, i tried to be nice and just say i wasnt impressed with the game, and people Still roasted my gonads, so fine, sod it, im just gonna diss any game that meets my scorn from now on and call all its fans bad names, because it clearly doesnt make a monkeys difference if im polite about it or not! You Asked for it. blame no one but yourselves.