Facebook Twitter YouTube Frictional Games | Forum | Newsletter | Dev Blog | Dev Wiki | Support | Gametee


Post Reply 
 
Thread Rating:
  • 6 Vote(s) - 2.33 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
The reviews Elysium syndrome
Author Message
Bucic Offline
Member

Posts: 145
Joined: Feb 2013
Reputation: 3
Post: #1
Rainbow The reviews Elysium syndrome

I've read some bits of AAMFP reviews on the internet and it seems to me that the Elysium syndrome is on the loose (from the reviews of the recent Sci-Fi film). What is the Elysium syndrome? Well, basically it's the reviewer coming up with some out of thin air expectations, some of which are unrealistic, and scoring a negative point in the review for each of his expectation that the game has not met. Then, to top this, he scores down for some completely subjective evaluation of an in-game implementation, e.g. the particular reviewer fell in love with the sanity effect from the Amnesia TDD, BAM!, 2 out of 10 points down for AAMFP for not having the said effect.

Grphc mods
[Image: moddb_88x31_v12.png]
(This post was last modified: 09-10-2013 07:43 PM by Bucic.)
09-10-2013 07:42 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
eliasfrost Offline
Posting Freak

Posts: 1,769
Joined: Mar 2007
Reputation: 39
Post: #2
RE: The reviews Elysium syndrome

That's how sequels work, it's bound to be compared to the rest of the series. Even though AMFP is very different than TDD, it's still an Amnesia game and thus it's treated as one.

[Image: indiedb_88x31.png]
09-10-2013 08:04 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Mastersarge Offline
Junior Member

Posts: 39
Joined: Jan 2012
Reputation: 0
Post: #3
RE: The reviews Elysium syndrome

Maybe It's the bandwagon syndrome! Where every fan jumps on the wagon to needlessly defend it without any sort of common sense or individuality.

Hey, how ya doing?
09-10-2013 08:41 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Bucic Offline
Member

Posts: 145
Joined: Feb 2013
Reputation: 3
Post: #4
RE: The reviews Elysium syndrome

Wanna see a parade of 'why no finite lantern and no inventory'? AMFP Member Review Thread

Grphc mods
[Image: moddb_88x31_v12.png]
09-10-2013 09:30 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
cantremember Offline
Senior Member

Posts: 251
Joined: Aug 2011
Reputation: 4
Post: #5
RE: The reviews Elysium syndrome

See the bright side. Amnesia's popularity as the scariest game ever made will probably boost a Machine for Pigs. Frictional Games will have plenty of coins to spend on an awesome epic sequal Big Grin
A machine For Pigs was more intended to be an add-on, like Justine (but much longer).
09-10-2013 10:20 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Bucic Offline
Member

Posts: 145
Joined: Feb 2013
Reputation: 3
Post: #6
RE: The reviews Elysium syndrome

(09-10-2013 10:20 PM)cantremember Wrote:  See the bright side. Amnesia's popularity as the scariest game ever made will probably boost a Machine for Pigs. Frictional Games will have plenty of coins to spend on an awesome epic sequal Big Grin
A machine For Pigs was more intended to be an add-on, like Justine (but much longer).
I think you unnecessarily downgraded AAMFP there Smile

Grphc mods
[Image: moddb_88x31_v12.png]
09-10-2013 10:45 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Cuyir Offline
Senior Member

Posts: 522
Joined: Feb 2012
Reputation: 15
Post: #7
RE: The reviews Elysium syndrome

@Bucic: Welp. You summed it up better than I could sir.

Hat's off to you.

I'll probably repeat this later tonight in some other thread but i've noticed some quite poor opinions on one of the flaws.

"The game is dumbed down, there's no gameplay or interactivity. It's too easy."

Really? A horror adventure game that's centered around atmosphere and a few puzzles thrown in was dumbed down because physics affect less items, no inventory and no sanity meter?

Really now?

Let me reiterate. A first person horror game where the only gameplay, since the days of Black Plague, has been walking, reading, puzzles, hiding and running away...has less gameplay elements and less interactivity because they removed two immersion breaking mechanics (inventory and sanity meter) and because physics affect less items in the game?
Really?

Opinions like these makes me question whether people are getting dumber or if the internet has just given these people a loudspeaker and makes them appear more numerous.
(This post was last modified: 09-10-2013 11:42 PM by Cuyir.)
09-10-2013 10:51 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
bluel0bster Offline
Senior Member

Posts: 374
Joined: Dec 2012
Reputation: 18
Post: #8
RE: The reviews Elysium syndrome

Getting rid of the sanity really affected the horror aspect in a negative way for me, I think that's kind of a universal complaint about the game. All in all I don't care all that much, but it still detracts and is a valid point.
09-10-2013 11:36 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
MyRedNeptune Offline
Senior Member

Posts: 553
Joined: May 2012
Reputation: 33
Post: #9
RE: The reviews Elysium syndrome

(09-10-2013 10:51 PM)Nuits Grace Wrote:  immersion breaking mechanics (inventory and sanity meter)

That can be disputed.

^(;,;)^
09-11-2013 01:47 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
HorrorElementFilms Offline
Member

Posts: 88
Joined: Aug 2013
Reputation: 4
Post: #10
RE: The reviews Elysium syndrome

I'll honestly say, that I found Amnesia A Machine For Pigs, to be one of the most enjoyable and decent games I've ever played. No, I wouldn't call it the "scariest" game ever, but that's because it wasn't meant to be. I can tell by playing this game, that this was made to convey a story. And a damn, good one at that. Most reviewers that I've seen, slam this game because it's "not scary" or "not enough gameplay". What TheChineseRoom have created, is one of the best stories a video game has ever showed to be.

It was so deep and emotionally engaging, that you couldn't help but treat it like a visual novel. I wouldn't call this game a "Survival Horror", as TDD has been labeled to be. I'd call this a horror experience. A tale of epic proportions. A stunning visual marvel.

A Machine For Pigs.
09-11-2013 02:23 AM
Visit this user's website Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Post Reply 




User(s) browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)