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2015-05 Wednesday 15th, SOMA is now in beta
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RE: 2015-05 Wednesday 15th, SOMA is now in beta

(04-25-2015 05:40 PM)knarrenheinz Wrote:  I guess Dark Souls or FNaF are not mainstream games then.

They couldn't be more mainstream.

(04-25-2015 05:57 PM)Statyk Wrote:  Good lord man, Traggey is a game designer. I'm 100% sure he knows what he's talking about.

The people behind GTA, Call of Duty, Assassins Creed etc. are also designers. To be a designer doesn't automatically mean to make games right. Traggey is not a designer he is a troll. Believe me, I saw him playing some games. His comments were laughable. Reacted hysterical to NPC's hairs.

(04-25-2015 05:57 PM)Statyk Wrote:  If a few icons with arrows ruins your immersion, how are you going to have fun in games anymore?

I don't have fun with most games.
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04-25-2015 05:58 PM
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RE: 2015-05 Wednesday 15th, SOMA is now in beta

(04-25-2015 05:58 PM)Googolplex Wrote:  
(04-25-2015 05:57 PM)Statyk Wrote:  Good lord man, Traggey is a game designer. I'm 100% sure he knows what he's talking about.

The people behind GTA, Call of Duty, Assassins Creed etc. are also designers. To be a designer doesn't automatically mean to make games right. Traggey is not a designer he is a troll. Believe me, I saw him playing some games. His comments were laughable. Reacted hysterical to NPC's hairs.

So? You mean this isn't funny? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=botmiu_7...lpage&t=87
because it cracked me up.

(04-25-2015 05:58 PM)Googolplex Wrote:  
(04-25-2015 05:57 PM)Statyk Wrote:  If a few icons with arrows ruins your immersion, how are you going to have fun in games anymore?

I don't have fun with most games.

Well that's a shame Sad
04-25-2015 06:12 PM
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RE: 2015-05 Wednesday 15th, SOMA is now in beta

Made this two years ago, still the only appropriate response to Googol ramblings.(Or ignoring him.)

[Image: googol.png?_subject_uid=25772184&w=A...nzQMhYQxbw]

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04-25-2015 06:17 PM
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RE: 2015-05 Wednesday 15th, SOMA is now in beta

(04-25-2015 06:17 PM)Ghieri Wrote:  Made this two years ago, still the only appropriate response to Googol ramblings.(Or ignoring him.)

[Image: googol.png?_subject_uid=25772184&w=A...nzQMhYQxbw]

You guys are clowns. Maybe this is the reason why you don't criticize casual games that are dulled for 12 year olds.
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04-25-2015 06:26 PM
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RE: 2015-05 Wednesday 15th, SOMA is now in beta

Let's stay away from the insulting okay?

Also yes, I do laugh at hair! My main role is that of a 3D artist, I can very easily make out if something is badly made arts-wise, and that amuses me!
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04-25-2015 06:29 PM
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RE: 2015-05 Wednesday 15th, SOMA is now in beta

Then show us some of your design masterpieces.
Hairs are not important for a proper experience. It's the perfection of story telling, atmosphere, gameplay and the love of detail in world & quest design.
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04-25-2015 06:33 PM
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RE: 2015-05 Wednesday 15th, SOMA is now in beta

(04-25-2015 05:58 PM)Googolplex Wrote:  
(04-25-2015 05:40 PM)knarrenheinz Wrote:  I guess Dark Souls or FNaF are not mainstream games then.

They couldn't be more mainstream.

(04-25-2015 05:57 PM)Statyk Wrote:  Good lord man, Traggey is a game designer. I'm 100% sure he knows what he's talking about.

The people behind GTA, Call of Duty, Assassins Creed etc. are also designers. To be a designer doesn't automatically mean to make games right. Traggey is not a designer he is a troll. Believe me, I saw him playing some games. His comments were laughable. Reacted hysterical to NPC's hairs.

(04-25-2015 05:57 PM)Statyk Wrote:  If a few icons with arrows ruins your immersion, how are you going to have fun in games anymore?

I don't have fun with most games.

So if I make a 3d model i'm not a designer, but when I work for i.e. Rockstar Games and I make a model i'm a designer? Seriously dude, who the hell are you to judge if someone is a designer or not?

I feel like your style here is mostly based on "oh look at me, i don't play mainstream games, i'm so cool because i played Gothic and the devs live near me". Sorry to disappoint you, but that is not how it works brother, disliking "mainstream" games doesn't make you cool.

Plus, let's be honest at this point. You mentioned that FG is kind of adjusting their new game to casual gamers, and that is damn right! If you make your game for a wider ammount of players, you can earn more money. Nobody will make a whole game for some veteran Forum Members, only because they like hardcore snuff.

And pls don't mention Gothic if you reply me, thx
04-25-2015 06:43 PM
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Sure, but I'm not a story writer or even much of a gameplay designer, I'm an artist. Hair is what I do.
And I don't have to prove myself to you, me making games or not is really no part of this discussion, I've presented my thoughts and arguments on the matter, that's what matters.
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Making games for a wider audience just to earn more money always ended up in lower design qualities. This is where we actually are where games become more and more boring and dull. When money makes the games, then we need some kind of DLC packs. We need big weapons, more monsters and no story. This is what the mainstream wants.

Good games with a strong meaning are simply not for everyone. They should belong for a special niche of people who knows to esteem them.
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(04-25-2015 07:01 PM)Googolplex Wrote:  Making games for a wider audience just to earn more money always ended up in lower design qualities.

I guess that Skyrim is a low quality game then.
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