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I know it's kind of a fuzzy sort of thing, But what happened to Philip at the start of Requiem? Was he killed or was he brought that crazy place? Or was it like limbo? I'm not really sure? Also the ending where you end up on the boat, what does it mean? Does he go back home? Please someone explain due to my compulsively wanting to know these things Huh
I think that he got killed by "Tuurngait"
I think so too, But penumbra has a much more sad ending then Amnesia, If philip didn't even go there, He would have been completely fine and the Tuurngait would just wallow around inside Shelter. And If that happened, Then what's the meaning of the whole game?
(11-22-2011, 06:12 PM)Unearthlybrutal Wrote: [ -> ]I think that he got killed by "Tuurngait"

i Have Played All Three Of Ther games And After Plaing Through watching and listening closly you will find that Phillip is not killed. if you decide to die with Red at the end then yes. If you dont you return home on the ship which you left. Reqirum is basically a walkthrough in tomb and your mind. Thats what those funny teleporter thingys are.
My whole theory on Requiem is probably a bit far fetched. I know there exist some theories but I might as well post my own right here. And before I begin please forgive me in advance for my bad English - being German. Smile

So Black Plaque ended with the test of the Tuurngait. They checked on Philip wether humanity is worth to exist further. As Philip passed the test they asked him to keep their existence a secret so they can live without being wiped out by mankind - and he did exactly the opposite.

Now the events of Requiem kick in.

In the beginning you see Philip standing in front of the PC afte rhe just sent out the eMail to his friend : "Kill them. Kill them all..."
Just after that Philip is knocked out by a Tuurngait.

What I think happens is that they infected him - wanted to make him part of their hive mind (second time of course - he curec himself in Black Plaque already but I think when he was knocked out he was supposed to be "infected" again).

Now the Puzzeles you solve during the event of Requiem of course are just part of the Gameplay - giving the player something to play around with.
As for the story I think Philip slowly drifts away into part of the hive mind which is composed by the actual Tuurngait minds as well as the minds and memories of the scientists of the shelter.
This is probably why Philip visits so many areas which seem to be part of the shelter - some parts he never visited by himself but probably other scientists visited before him. Maybe he even relives stories of the other shelter inhabitants - which happened beofre Philip even entered the shelter himself.
The whole "reason" this all happens I think is that Philip struggles against the "infection" - he fights against becoming a Tuurngait. Maybe all the puzzle-solving are supposed to keep his human mind (i.e. logic) intact (of course again I think it's mostly non-symbolic but just a Gameplay element).
In the end of the game you are given the chance Red had: Redemption by death. You can pull the switch of the funrance and beat the "infection" - by the cost of your life. (my guess: "good ending")
Or you turn around, go through the door and give in your mind to the Tuurngait hive - represented by Philip ending up on the ship again. Stuck in the infinite hole of your own and others memories inside the hive. (my guess. "bad ending")

Now what happens after that? We cannot be sure. Did Philip's friend bring the army in to wipe out the infection? Or does his friend relive the same story? We might never know...


So this is my whole take on the story. I might be totally wrong here but I think there's enough room for interpretation here, right?


(01-14-2012, 02:16 PM)zico Wrote: [ -> ]My whole theory on Requiem is probably a bit far fetched. I know there exist some theories but I might as well post my own right here. And before I begin please forgive me in advance for my bad English - being German. Smile

So Black Plaque ended with the test of the Tuurngait. They checked on Philip wether humanity is worth to exist further. As Philip passed the test they asked him to keep their existence a secret so they can live without being wiped out by mankind - and he did exactly the opposite.

Now the events of Requiem kick in.

In the beginning you see Philip standing in front of the PC afte rhe just sent out the eMail to his friend : "Kill them. Kill them all..."
Just after that Philip is knocked out by a Tuurngait.

What I think happens is that they infected him - wanted to make him part of their hive mind (second time of course - he curec himself in Black Plaque already but I think when he was knocked out he was supposed to be "infected" again).

Now the Puzzeles you solve during the event of Requiem of course are just part of the Gameplay - giving the player something to play around with.
As for the story I think Philip slowly drifts away into part of the hive mind which is composed by the actual Tuurngait minds as well as the minds and memories of the scientists of the shelter.
This is probably why Philip visits so many areas which seem to be part of the shelter - some parts he never visited by himself but probably other scientists visited before him. Maybe he even relives stories of the other shelter inhabitants - which happened beofre Philip even entered the shelter himself.
The whole "reason" this all happens I think is that Philip struggles against the "infection" - he fights against becoming a Tuurngait. Maybe all the puzzle-solving are supposed to keep his human mind (i.e. logic) intact (of course again I think it's mostly non-symbolic but just a Gameplay element).
In the end of the game you are given the chance Red had: Redemption by death. You can pull the switch of the funrance and beat the "infection" - by the cost of your life. (my guess: "good ending")
Or you turn around, go through the door and give in your mind to the Tuurngait hive - represented by Philip ending up on the ship again. Stuck in the infinite hole of your own and others memories inside the hive. (my guess. "bad ending")

Now what happens after that? We cannot be sure. Did Philip's friend bring the army in to wipe out the infection? Or does his friend relive the same story? We might never know...


So this is my whole take on the story. I might be totally wrong here but I think there's enough room for interpretation here, right?
I totally agree with you!