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Dutton

04-26-2012, 08:34 AM
Like what? can you be more specific?

Cocomunches

04-26-2012, 08:38 AM
(04-26-2012, 08:34 AM)Dutton Wrote: [ -> ]Like what? can you be more specific?
I honestly don't know off the top of my head, but next time I try it I will write em down to inform you for more help.

Dutton

04-26-2012, 08:42 AM
Try messing with it.

If you want the monster to behave like in the "real" amnesia you should definitely use this method, the other way you'll just get disapointed when making bigger projects :p

Cocomunches

04-26-2012, 08:46 AM
(04-26-2012, 08:42 AM)Dutton Wrote: [ -> ]Try messing with it.

If you want the monster to behave like in the "real" amnesia you should definitely use this method, the other way you'll just get disapointed when making bigger projects :p
Haha, I agree. and I will do my best to make the grunt do some real work!

Cocomunches

04-27-2012, 07:38 AM
(04-26-2012, 08:03 AM)TeamSD Wrote: [ -> ]This is just a brief help. Basically you could set unscripted pathnodes to the room where you trigger the monster/player hides. When monster arrives to the room it starts to look for the player from the place you were during activating the trigger. After herpderbing a while, monster just stands there unless there is a pathnode nearby.

Place some pathnodes out of the room and to the end of all these pathnodes set up a area where the monster disappears. For example
SetEntityActive("Monster_Grunt", false);

Note that pathnodes can work without scripting. I recall using this method in one of my earliest custom stories.
Try it out. Hope it works.
So how do path nodes work WITHOUT scripting then? I'd like to halfass it before I take time scripting, haha.

TeamSD

04-27-2012, 07:56 AM
(04-27-2012, 07:38 AM)Cocomunches Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-26-2012, 08:03 AM)TeamSD Wrote: [ -> ]This is just a brief help. Basically you could set unscripted pathnodes to the room where you trigger the monster/player hides. When monster arrives to the room it starts to look for the player from the place you were during activating the trigger. After herpderbing a while, monster just stands there unless there is a pathnode nearby.

Place some pathnodes out of the room and to the end of all these pathnodes set up a area where the monster disappears. For example
SetEntityActive("Monster_Grunt", false);

Note that pathnodes can work without scripting. I recall using this method in one of my earliest custom stories.
Try it out. Hope it works.
So how do path nodes work WITHOUT scripting then? I'd like to halfass it before I take time scripting, haha.
I'll save some time and link you to this thread.

http://www.frictionalgames.com/forum/thread-8794.html

It might give you the right idea what im trying to tell you. Big Grin

Cocomunches

04-27-2012, 08:02 AM
(04-27-2012, 07:56 AM)TeamSD Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-27-2012, 07:38 AM)Cocomunches Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-26-2012, 08:03 AM)TeamSD Wrote: [ -> ]This is just a brief help. Basically you could set unscripted pathnodes to the room where you trigger the monster/player hides. When monster arrives to the room it starts to look for the player from the place you were during activating the trigger. After herpderbing a while, monster just stands there unless there is a pathnode nearby.

Place some pathnodes out of the room and to the end of all these pathnodes set up a area where the monster disappears. For example
SetEntityActive("Monster_Grunt", false);

Note that pathnodes can work without scripting. I recall using this method in one of my earliest custom stories.
Try it out. Hope it works.
So how do path nodes work WITHOUT scripting then? I'd like to halfass it before I take time scripting, haha.
I'll save some time and link you to this thread.

http://www.frictionalgames.com/forum/thread-8794.html

It might give you the right idea what im trying to tell you. Big Grin
I am sorry, but it's not quite painting the picture of what I am suppose to do.

TeamSD

04-27-2012, 08:18 AM
(04-27-2012, 08:02 AM)Cocomunches Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-27-2012, 07:56 AM)TeamSD Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-27-2012, 07:38 AM)Cocomunches Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-26-2012, 08:03 AM)TeamSD Wrote: [ -> ]This is just a brief help. Basically you could set unscripted pathnodes to the room where you trigger the monster/player hides. When monster arrives to the room it starts to look for the player from the place you were during activating the trigger. After herpderbing a while, monster just stands there unless there is a pathnode nearby.

Place some pathnodes out of the room and to the end of all these pathnodes set up a area where the monster disappears. For example
SetEntityActive("Monster_Grunt", false);

Note that pathnodes can work without scripting. I recall using this method in one of my earliest custom stories.
Try it out. Hope it works.
So how do path nodes work WITHOUT scripting then? I'd like to halfass it before I take time scripting, haha.
I'll save some time and link you to this thread.

http://www.frictionalgames.com/forum/thread-8794.html

It might give you the right idea what im trying to tell you. Big Grin
I am sorry, but it's not quite painting the picture of what I am suppose to do.
Basically enemies behaviour goes like this.

If you only have one (scripted) path that enemy follows he does that untilt it reaches the last one. Then it just stands there.

If the enemy sees the player in middle of that path it starts to chase the player. If player succeeds to hide, monster does not know what to do next. Probably it will just stand there or try to go through pillars or some furniture. It has no path. This is where unscripted pathnodes come to play. It takes the nearest one and starts to follow them. This avoids the situation where player is hiding in a closet and grunt is just chilling around basically making it impossible to proceed. This is a sign on bad monster setting.

So what you should do IMO is;

Script one path that the enemy follows mainly and put some unscripted pathnodes for it to find a way back to that path (in case it looses the track). So I really recommend you script some pathnodes, you just don't have to script them all.

Explaining things is never easy to me.

Cocomunches

04-27-2012, 08:21 AM
(04-27-2012, 08:18 AM)TeamSD Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-27-2012, 08:02 AM)Cocomunches Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-27-2012, 07:56 AM)TeamSD Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-27-2012, 07:38 AM)Cocomunches Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-26-2012, 08:03 AM)TeamSD Wrote: [ -> ]This is just a brief help. Basically you could set unscripted pathnodes to the room where you trigger the monster/player hides. When monster arrives to the room it starts to look for the player from the place you were during activating the trigger. After herpderbing a while, monster just stands there unless there is a pathnode nearby.

Place some pathnodes out of the room and to the end of all these pathnodes set up a area where the monster disappears. For example
SetEntityActive("Monster_Grunt", false);

Note that pathnodes can work without scripting. I recall using this method in one of my earliest custom stories.
Try it out. Hope it works.
So how do path nodes work WITHOUT scripting then? I'd like to halfass it before I take time scripting, haha.
I'll save some time and link you to this thread.

http://www.frictionalgames.com/forum/thread-8794.html

It might give you the right idea what im trying to tell you. Big Grin
I am sorry, but it's not quite painting the picture of what I am suppose to do.
Basically enemies behaviour goes like this.

If you only have one (scripted) path that enemy follows he does that untilt it reaches the last one. Then it just stands there.

If the enemy sees the player in middle of that path it starts to chase the player. If player succeeds to hide, monster does not know what to do next. Probably it will just stand there or try to go through pillars or some furniture. It has no path. This is where unscripted pathnodes come to play. It takes the nearest one and starts to follow them. This avoids the situation where player is hiding in a closet and grunt is just chilling around basically making it impossible to proceed. This is a sign on bad monster setting.

So what you should do IMO is;

Script one path that the enemy follows mainly and put some unscripted pathnodes for it to find a way back to that path (in case it looses the track). So I really recommend you script some pathnodes, you just don't have to script them all.

Explaining things is never easy to me.
Perfect explanation, thank you very much! I will try it out now.

(04-26-2012, 08:34 AM)Dutton Wrote: [ -> ]Like what? can you be more specific?
So I tried scripting some nodes and once again unsuccessful. Now once again, let me remind you I am terrible at this and hope I don't look like too much of an idiot.

Quote: ////////////////////////////
// Run when entering map
void OnStart()
{
AddEntityCollideCallback("Player", "PlayerCollide", "MonsterFuncton", True, 1);
}

void MonsterFunction(string &in asParent, string &in asChild, int alState)
{
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_1", 2, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_2", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_3", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_4", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_5", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_6", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_7", 2, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_8", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_9", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_10", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_11", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_12", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_13", 2, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_14", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_15", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_16", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_17", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_18", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_19", 2, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_20", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_21", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_22", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_23", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_24", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_25", 2, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_26", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_27", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_28", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_29", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_30", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_31", 2, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_32", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_33", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_34", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_35", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_36", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_37", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_38", 0, "");
}

{
SetEntityPlayerInteractCallback("scareactive2", "OnPickup", true);
}

void OnPickup(string &in asEntity)
{
SetEntityActive ("Monster_Grunt", true);
ShowEnemyPlayerPosition ("Monster_Grunt");
AddTimer("monsterstart", 60.0f, "byegrunt");
}

void byegrunt(string &in asTimer)
{
SetEntityActive ("Monster_Grunt", false);
}

////////////////////////////
// Run when leaving map
void OnLeave()
{

}
I get the Following error and it usually leads to more and more:

Quote: FATAL ERROR: Could not load script file
'custom_stories/Lost/maps/C:/Promgram Files (x86)/Amnesia - The Dark
Descent/redist/custom_stories/Lost/Prison.hps'!
ExecuteString (1,1): Err :No matching Signatures to 'Onenter()'
Main (50,1) : ERR : Unexpected token '{'
Hope I can fix this somehow :V

I am really bad at this.

heyitsrobert97

04-27-2012, 11:11 AM
(04-27-2012, 08:21 AM)Cocomunches Wrote: [ -> ]
Quote: ////////////////////////////
// Run when entering map
void OnStart()

{
SetEntityPlayerInteractCallback("scareactive2", "OnPickup", true);
}

void OnPickup(string &in asEntity)
{
SetEntityActive ("Monster_Grunt", true);
AddTimer("monsterstart", 60.0f, "byegrunt");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_1", 2, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_2", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_3", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_4", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_5", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_6", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_7", 2, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_8", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_9", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_10", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_11", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_12", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_13", 2, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_14", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_15", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_16", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_17", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_18", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_19", 2, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_20", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_21", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_22", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_23", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_24", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_25", 2, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_26", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_27", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_28", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_29", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_30", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_31", 2, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_32", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_33", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_34", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_35", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_36", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_37", 0, "");
AddEnemyPatrolNode("Monster_Grunt", "PathNodeAre_38", 0, "");
}

void byegrunt(string &in asTimer)
{
SetEntityActive ("Monster_Grunt", false);
}

////////////////////////////
// Run when leaving map
void OnLeave()
{
StopMusic(2.0f, 0);
}
You Can Delete The Collide area to create areanodes. you just add them right after you spawn the grunt like i did. I also Added Something to The void OnLeave() to help you. it will stop the music (if you have any) and fade it out when you exit the map to main menu or another map Big Grin


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