(07-07-2013, 06:25 PM)Your Computer Wrote: [ -> ]would you still claim he should not go to jail?
Yes. As I stated before it is immediately obvious to people who are even moderately sensitive to the English language that the comment was sarcastic.
It was a crude, insensitive joke. He should get a slap or two but not thrown into jail.
America is funny. People are allowed to carry automatic rifles around and the infamous "freedom of speech" crap and yet its the place where the most silly arrests happen.
I personally signed the petition... Why? Because I personally wouldn't fucking want to be arrested because of some stupid joke I could have said in a video game. Just saying. There are murderers who get away whit far less penalties than this if you people haven't noticed.
Just got this thought in my head after reading about the case of the other kid (who even has been provoked and then set up by some other kid): Remember the DDR...
I think that the US doesn't want this to happen, but I guess they have to jail someone saying terrorist things. Remember 9/11? That wasn't a very pleasant day for America, but they just want to make sure that doesn't happen again. And they did a pretty good job, but the law itself is to strict so even a terrorist joke makes you incarcerated.
(07-08-2013, 01:38 AM)JustAnotherPlayer Wrote: [ -> ]I think that the US doesn't want this to happen, but I guess they have to jail someone saying terrorist things. Remember 9/11? That wasn't a very pleasant day for America, but they just want to make sure that doesn't happen again. And they did a pretty good job, but the law itself is to strict so even a terrorist joke makes you incarcerated.
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(07-08-2013, 01:42 AM)Wooderson Wrote: [ -> ] (07-08-2013, 01:38 AM)JustAnotherPlayer Wrote: [ -> ]I think that the US doesn't want this to happen, but I guess they have to jail someone saying terrorist things. Remember 9/11? That wasn't a very pleasant day for America, but they just want to make sure that doesn't happen again. And they did a pretty good job, but the law itself is to strict so even a terrorist joke makes you incarcerated.
wait there was another attack how come i didnt notice
Boston is a good example...
(07-08-2013, 02:05 AM)Wooderson Wrote: [ -> ]Boston is a good example...
Oh right the Marathon....
Nevermind about what I said about America doing a good job.
(07-07-2013, 04:56 PM)Your Computer Wrote: [ -> ] (07-07-2013, 02:56 PM)Bridge Wrote: [ -> ]Stupid people have constitutional rights too, which are being unjustly violated here. He doesn't even deserve a slap on the wrist. How can you guys not care about other people's rights? In case you weren't aware, they are your rights too. If you let shit like this go by unchallenged, sooner or later you will be the ones whose rights are being violated.
And freedom of speech does in fact mean freedom of speech without consequence. When you start talking about speech that is not protected by free speech (rare and justifiable instances) it's not a freedom anymore. In the United States you are basically allowed to say anything in an ironic way for the sake of satire or comedy and it can be clearly demonstrated by examining the context that it was said in an ironic way. Ergo, free speech.
Even though it is a case of a person being treated unconstitutionally, just the fact that people resort to signing an online petition is itself absurd. Even if i agreed with the parent's parenting (which i don't, since that kid deserves some form of punishment), i wouldn't sign the petition. Even though i agree that this was unconstitutionally handled, and even if this were to happen to me for another reason, i wouldn't sign the petition, or any petition concerning upholding constitutional rights. I am not interested in making that kind of support through these trivial means.
How can you say that freedom of speech is without consequences and go on to say that there are speeches not protected by freedom of speech? Does freedom of speech touch on every spoken and written word or doesn't it?
http://www.freedomforum.org/packages/fir...Speech.htm