(08-29-2013, 01:32 AM)General Consensus Wrote: [ -> ] (08-28-2013, 09:50 PM)Vertical Wrote: [ -> ] (08-28-2013, 09:31 PM)Plectrum61 Wrote: [ -> ]Nothing special in my opinion. Just a pig carcass like Vertigo said. However with the release being so close, I'm getting really curious what this 'machine' is and what it is build for. It's not build for just slaughtering pigs if it even is a normal machine.
About the line: "Well that all rather depends, professor, on what one considers to be a pig", are there any ideas why Oswald suggests that they could use humans for the 'appetite' of such a machine'?
I doubt it was for any benevolent purposes. I find only two possibilities that might stood behind this decision:
1. Expanding his business, although I think it might be too simple for Amnesia and he's already a wealthy industrialist after all; why risk everything?
2. Getting something in return from the Machine (or from something/someone that needed him to fuel it).
Hi, long time lurker.
I assumed from what we know from the background of machine for pigs and from the Dark Descent the below theory.
Mandus has kids right, and a tragedy befell him in Mexico: so what if one of the kids died there, sending Mandus into depression and madness. He races back to London, eager to find a cure for "death." Pigs are anatomically close to humans right? He creates the pig monsters as a means of experimentation to bring the kid back, failing that he possibly discovers Alexander's notes about vitae. Fast forward to current events and machine springs to life. The machine acts as an industrial grade harvester of vitae, hence the need for human victims, and maybe this vitae is used in the machine for keeping one of the kids alive? The pigs are carrying out the bidding that the machine is programmed for, grabbing more people to feed its appetite.
My theory is probably completely crackpot, but I felt like putting it out there.
It makes sense. I came up with a various theories related to The Order of The Black Eagle and the fact that Alexander was being part of it can lead other members to steal his research and stuff or simply force him to share his knowledge about such matters as Vitae.
Quote: Mandus has kids right, and a tragedy befell him in Mexico: so what if one of the kids died there, sending Mandus into depression and madness. He races back to London, eager to find a cure for "death." Pigs are anatomically close to humans right? He creates the pig monsters as a means of experimentation to bring the kid back, failing that he possibly discovers Alexander's notes about vitae. Fast forward to current events and machine springs to life. The machine acts as an industrial grade harvester of vitae, hence the need for human victims, and maybe this vitae is used in the machine for keeping one of the kids alive? The pigs are carrying out the bidding that the machine is programmed for, grabbing more people to feed its appetite.
Almost exactly what I suggested a few months back, albeit with some teensy differences. Great minds think alike, huh?
(08-28-2013, 09:31 PM)Plectrum61 Wrote: [ -> ] (08-28-2013, 07:16 PM)Vertical Wrote: [ -> ] (08-28-2013, 07:03 PM)droog Wrote: [ -> ] (08-28-2013, 07:00 PM)The Raining Brains Wrote: [ -> ] (08-28-2013, 01:24 PM)Sergeant Crits Wrote: [ -> ]I could give you it. However it might be deleted so this will be a spoiler tagged one.
So what are we looking at here exactly? A monster?
I think it's the torso from the big monster we saw in one of the new screenshots.
I think it's an ordinary pig carcass during a skinning process. However, as for me, the skin looks just like that of the monster
Nothing special in my opinion. Just a pig carcass like Vertigo said. However with the release being so close, I'm getting really curious what this 'machine' is and what it is build for. It's not build for just slaughtering pigs in order to produce meat if it even is a normal machine.
About the line: "Well that all rather depends, professor, on what one considers to be a pig", are there any ideas why Oswald suggests that they could use humans for the 'appetite' of such a machine'?
In steam, it says " The house is silent, the ground beneath him shaking at the will of some infernal machine: all he knows is that his children are in grave peril, and it is up to him to save them." maybe something to do with that?
SPOOKY >:O
Edit: Clord was faster :-<
Let's not forget about Lily, her daughter, the fact that she's (very probably) dead, and that machine "procuces" hybrids... maybe it was some way to try to return her daughter back to life?
There are a couple of hints that I just can't fit with other "pieces of the puzzle" and form a "plausible" storyline. Those are:
* the recently mentioned discussion with the professor
* the "weird science" electric machinery
* the 1st poem (2nd teaser)
I guess the discussion and "weird science" machinery are linked. My gut feeling says the discussion took place pre-Mexico. Maybe Oswald asked the professor to design him an extremely powerful factory complex, but the professor doubts where Oswald can get all the input for it. Oswald's answer sounds obvious. Too obvious for my taste. A powerful patriarch of those times could certainly use orphans for that, but would they honestly be enough? The city I once lived in was basically built around a factory complex of a foreign (Scotsman) industrial tycoon.
Another head-scratcher are the children. But the poem and the videos where you can see some child figure or ghosts are the only things we know about them. Personally I wouldn't necessarily link "Old Lily" to those children. At least not as a child herself. That is also on my "too obvious" list
I thought the children already were dead... Ah well. Maybe the children got turned into these " Hybrids" and wanted to let ther dad know her pain... Just an idea.
Now I get it. Oswald and certain gnomes must have a connection:
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