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RE: Time? - Robby - 09-28-2012

(09-28-2012, 07:51 PM)BAndrew Wrote: Suppose that the universe is infinite.
That's where the confusion starts for me. Let's just say the universe is expanding and isn't infinite.

But yeah, if something infinite expands, it will expand from infinity to double-infinity (yeah, no sense at all).

I understand a little now.

(09-28-2012, 07:55 PM)Scraper Wrote: BAndrew,

How can you say it's infinite if your theory says it's sphere-like.
Here I go again. Confusion at its best.


RE: Time? - BAndrew - 09-28-2012

(09-28-2012, 07:55 PM)Scraper Wrote: BAndrew,

How can you say it's infinite if your theory says it's sphere-like.
Take word "Space" as an example. If you start your journey from S and end it in E, that would mean it has a start and end. You would just start the circle again from S and end it again into E.
In this case, it's not infinite. It's just doing circles.
WAIT WAIT WAIT!

WRONG! It's not like that. The sphere is not a 2D object. You confused the surface of the sphere (Earth - like thing) with the sphere.

Of course there are other dimensions which force you to do a circle.

Remember that you CAN'T GO in a STRAIGHT LINE in the universe.


RE: Time? - Robby - 09-28-2012

Now I have completely no idea what to go for. I do understand and all that, but the confusion (like in post #143) is killing me.


RE: Time? - BAndrew - 09-28-2012

(09-28-2012, 07:55 PM)Nemet Robert Wrote:
(09-28-2012, 07:51 PM)BAndrew Wrote: Suppose that the universe is infinite.
That's where the confusion starts for me. Let's just say the universe is expanding and isn't infinite.

But yeah, if something infinite expands, it will expand from infinity to double-infinity (yeah, no sense at all).

I understand a little now.

(09-28-2012, 07:55 PM)Scraper Wrote: BAndrew,

How can you say it's infinite if your theory says it's sphere-like.
Here I go again. Confusion at its best.
Well it's really hard to explain because in fact you can't even imagine what universe MIGHT look like and that's why all this confusion is all about. Don't think it as a normal sphere because in that case you can't make circles in an infinite surface.


RE: Time? - Yuhaney - 09-28-2012

Umm... what's the difference between "sphere" and "sphere"?


RE: Time? - BAndrew - 09-28-2012

(09-28-2012, 08:06 PM)Scraper Wrote: Umm... what's the difference between "sphere" and "sphere"?
Your question is what's the difference between a 11 Dimensional sphere and a 3 Dimensional sphere. And I honestly don't exactly know.


RE: Time? - Robby - 09-28-2012

(09-28-2012, 08:08 PM)BAndrew Wrote:
(09-28-2012, 08:06 PM)Scraper Wrote: Umm... what's the difference between "sphere" and "sphere"?
Your question is what's the difference between a 11 Dimensional sphere and a 3 Dimensional sphere. And I honestly don't exactly know.
Dang it. I am at zero IQ yet again.

Sphere and sphere is the same.


RE: Time? - BAndrew - 09-28-2012

The word "sphere" was used in order to explain how an open or closed universe might look like (you make circles in any case) please don't confuse it and try to imagine universe as a sphere. It clearly doesn't make sense that way.


RE: Time? - Robby - 09-28-2012

All of this is a mystery if you ask me.


RE: Time? - BAndrew - 09-28-2012

(09-28-2012, 08:10 PM)Nemet Robert Wrote:
(09-28-2012, 08:08 PM)BAndrew Wrote:
(09-28-2012, 08:06 PM)Scraper Wrote: Umm... what's the difference between "sphere" and "sphere"?
Your question is what's the difference between a 11 Dimensional sphere and a 3 Dimensional sphere. And I honestly don't exactly know.
Dang it. I am at zero IQ yet again.

Sphere and sphere is the same.
1 Dimension = line
2 Dimension = Surface
3 Dimension = Volume
4 Dimension = Time
5 Dimension = ???
x Dimension = ???

To help you a bit. The universe has at least 10 dimensions and you can only sense the 4 of them and you don't understand any of them.