(09-30-2012, 02:02 AM)failedALIAS Wrote:

(09-30-2012, 01:32 AM)Prelauncher Wrote: For example, love. With language you can describe the emotion love, but you can still feel love without turning it into words.

A can describe it with one word(from the english language): Horrible.

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Also, I was using the idea as a hypothetical. IF the state of atoms was random, then your entire argument would fall apart.
The language thing, I don't even KNOW what to say about that.

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Did you even consider the other things I said? Really?

(09-30-2012, 08:35 AM)BAndrew Wrote:

(09-30-2012, 02:02 AM)failedALIAS Wrote:

(09-30-2012, 01:32 AM)Prelauncher Wrote: For example, love. With language you can describe the emotion love, but you can still feel love without turning it into words.

A can describe it with one word(from the english language): Horrible.

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Also, I was using the idea as a hypothetical. IF the state of atoms was random, then your entire argument would fall apart.
The language thing, I don't even KNOW what to say about that.

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Did you even consider the other things I said? Really?

Well the state of atoms isn't random, no random at all. It's just based on the chaos theory which says chaotic systems who are based on simple mathematical rules can have outcomes that are entirely unpredictible (they can be described by mathematics, but they can't be predicted through mathematics). That's how our weather system works. You cannot predict the weather after 1 month for example can you? If we didn't exist will the atoms stop reacting mathematically? I don't think so. Mathematics is woven to the most basic laws of physics.

(09-30-2012, 08:39 AM)Kreekakon Wrote: Mathematics are the way we understand the laws of physics. Without them even if whatever happens has meaning we couldn't understand it at all. H20 wouldn't be called H20. It would just be a bunch of atoms grouping together.

Mathematics are our understanding of physics, and not the exact same thing. It's just a system we use to understand/translate it.

(09-30-2012, 08:45 AM)BAndrew Wrote:

(09-30-2012, 08:39 AM)Kreekakon Wrote: Mathematics are the way we understand the laws of physics. Without them even if whatever happens has meaning we couldn't understand it at all. H20 wouldn't be called H20. It would just be a bunch of atoms grouping together.

Mathematics are our understanding of physics, and not the exact same thing. It's just a system we use to understand/translate it.

By that logic they is no physics because physics is our understanding of physics. What you say makes no sense.

(09-30-2012, 08:41 AM)failedALIAS Wrote: HYPOTHETICAL