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RE: Plot Discussion Thread *Spoiler Alert* - charuchii - 09-17-2013 (09-17-2013, 10:29 PM)Mechavomit Wrote:(09-17-2013, 02:55 AM)Alardem Wrote: If we assume Mandus' great-uncle is Daniel, would that make the normal ending of TDD the official one? The one where Daniel kills Alexander is the only one where he gets to escape Brennenburg unharmed, and his ambiguous monologue would suggest that he hasn't learned anything from his lesson - he continues to be a self-righteous, blameless coward, willing to shift the responsibility for his evil deeds onto someone else.Didn't Daniel's sister (he had a sister, right?) died like.. in her teens? She was really sick, but it is never explicitly said she died. In fact, there is a loading screen that says when Daniel went off to Algeria, she had already lived two years longer than expected. RE: Plot Discussion Thread *Spoiler Alert* - Kein - 09-18-2013 (09-17-2013, 07:53 PM)Serena Wrote: I got to page 33 of this thread and suddenly it hit me. (Forgive me if this has been mentioned since then)yet again a bit slow here, people figured it out when the name was just revealed in the premise during development. (09-17-2013, 09:47 PM)charuchii Wrote: Alright, first post here... I think we all agreed before it was Daniel? Many people seems to came to the same conclusion. RE: Plot Discussion Thread *Spoiler Alert* - Ghieri - 09-18-2013 Quote: I think we all agreed before it was Daniel? Many people seems to came to the same conclusion.But Daniel didn't make the grunts. Also, someone else pointed out that you do not have to have blood relation to be an uncle, so I think Alexander was the uncle. RE: Plot Discussion Thread *Spoiler Alert* - Alardem - 09-18-2013 I think it was left deliberately vague whether Mandus is related to Alexander or Daniel, because both men have their own problems - why would Daniel take responsibility for Alexander's experiments? Why would Alexander be related to any humans? I personally lean towards Alexander being Oswald's ancestor, simply because they're both evil aristocrats. Maybe Daniel, after some time in recuperation, returned to salvage whatever he could from Brennenburg? Or perhaps by 'experiments', Mandus was referring to the extraction of Vitae? RE: Plot Discussion Thread *Spoiler Alert* - VaeVictis - 09-18-2013 (09-18-2013, 05:21 AM)Alardem Wrote: I think it was left deliberately vague whether Mandus is related to Alexander or Daniel, because both men have their own problems - why would Daniel take responsibility for Alexander's experiments? Why would Alexander be related to any humans? That's how I read it. I mean, no matter what ending from the TDD you go with, it seems to be a stretch of speculation to name either Daniel or Alexander as 'uncle.' RE: Plot Discussion Thread *Spoiler Alert* - Kein - 09-18-2013 (09-18-2013, 04:03 AM)Ye Olde Aldi Wrote:Quote: I think we all agreed before it was Daniel? Many people seems to came to the same conclusion.But Daniel didn't make the grunts. Also, someone else pointed out that you do not have to have blood relation to be an uncle, so I think Alexander was the uncle. Alexander wasn't from this world, he couldn't have any of the relatives. Besides, Oswalddidn't knew in details what Daniel was up to. He knew that he spent quite some time in Brennenburg doing some shady stuff with baron, like extracting Vitae. He knew about orb Daniel found. So he may as well thinking that Daniel participated in the golems (Grunt/Brute) creations along with Alexander. There is even less reasons for Mandus be related to Alexander than to Daniel, I think this is obvious. RE: Plot Discussion Thread *Spoiler Alert* - Potato - 09-18-2013 (09-17-2013, 10:38 PM)charuchii Wrote:It all depends on how the player 'played the game'. There's either a loading screen that implied Hazel died, or one that says she lived longer than expected and bid Daniel a safe trip to Algeria.(09-17-2013, 10:29 PM)Mechavomit Wrote:(09-17-2013, 02:55 AM)Alardem Wrote: If we assume Mandus' great-uncle is Daniel, would that make the normal ending of TDD the official one? The one where Daniel kills Alexander is the only one where he gets to escape Brennenburg unharmed, and his ambiguous monologue would suggest that he hasn't learned anything from his lesson - he continues to be a self-righteous, blameless coward, willing to shift the responsibility for his evil deeds onto someone else.Didn't Daniel's sister (he had a sister, right?) died like.. in her teens? RE: Plot Discussion Thread *Spoiler Alert* - VaeVictis - 09-18-2013 (09-18-2013, 08:56 AM)Potato Wrote:(09-17-2013, 10:38 PM)charuchii Wrote:It all depends on how the player 'played the game'. There's either a loading screen that implied Hazel died, or one that says she lived longer than expected and bid Daniel a safe trip to Algeria.(09-17-2013, 10:29 PM)Mechavomit Wrote:(09-17-2013, 02:55 AM)Alardem Wrote: If we assume Mandus' great-uncle is Daniel, would that make the normal ending of TDD the official one? The one where Daniel kills Alexander is the only one where he gets to escape Brennenburg unharmed, and his ambiguous monologue would suggest that he hasn't learned anything from his lesson - he continues to be a self-righteous, blameless coward, willing to shift the responsibility for his evil deeds onto someone else.Didn't Daniel's sister (he had a sister, right?) died like.. in her teens? That was taken out of the official game, though. Hazel lived to see Daniel off to Algeria. RE: Plot Discussion Thread *Spoiler Alert* - ReadingNotAllowed - 09-18-2013 (09-18-2013, 02:26 PM)Abraxas Wrote:(09-18-2013, 08:56 AM)Potato Wrote:(09-17-2013, 10:38 PM)charuchii Wrote:It all depends on how the player 'played the game'. There's either a loading screen that implied Hazel died, or one that says she lived longer than expected and bid Daniel a safe trip to Algeria.(09-17-2013, 10:29 PM)Mechavomit Wrote:(09-17-2013, 02:55 AM)Alardem Wrote: If we assume Mandus' great-uncle is Daniel, would that make the normal ending of TDD the official one? The one where Daniel kills Alexander is the only one where he gets to escape Brennenburg unharmed, and his ambiguous monologue would suggest that he hasn't learned anything from his lesson - he continues to be a self-righteous, blameless coward, willing to shift the responsibility for his evil deeds onto someone else.Didn't Daniel's sister (he had a sister, right?) died like.. in her teens? No it wasn't. In the developer commentary you hear them talk about it being in the game. :L RE: Plot Discussion Thread *Spoiler Alert* - VaeVictis - 09-18-2013 (09-18-2013, 02:38 PM)ReadingNotAllowed Wrote:(09-18-2013, 02:26 PM)Abraxas Wrote:(09-18-2013, 08:56 AM)Potato Wrote:(09-17-2013, 10:38 PM)charuchii Wrote:It all depends on how the player 'played the game'. There's either a loading screen that implied Hazel died, or one that says she lived longer than expected and bid Daniel a safe trip to Algeria.(09-17-2013, 10:29 PM)Mechavomit Wrote: Didn't Daniel's sister (he had a sister, right?) died like.. in her teens? Really? I've played through several times with all endings and never had it implied otherwise... |