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(10-24-2013, 03:40 AM)Abraxas Wrote: I never said those things happened to me. I also never called you sexist.
I was giving you examples of things almost every woman out there faces EVERY DAY just by leaving the house (see everydaysexism). This isn't just a woman's problem, it's also a man's problem. It's a societal problem that we can all do something about instead of belittling each others problems.
So, you expected me not to react to being implied about being over-emotional and obviously from a bad neighborhood? I'm not resentful towards men, thankyouverymuch for putting words in my mouth. But I acknowledge the inherent dangers that come with simply being female. I'm also not complacent enough to accept that as normal. I know men are better than the animalistic sex fiends that I know are out there. Despite my, and every other woman's experiences, I choose to think men are better than that.
If we question the everyday assumptions we make about the genders (which there are more than two of, by the way), we can help end this stupid war.

The problem is you choosing to bring up those issues in the first place. The very first post you made on the topic of feminism was an incredibly irrelevant defense of women's rights, when absolutely nobody had suggested in any way that women's rights were not important. We were discussing the dangers of feminist extremism, which Paddy put quite eloquently in his "wall of text". To recapitulate: When you make the issue about recovering rights that you feel were forcibly taken from you, obviously somebody needs to be at fault, right? The classic scapegoat is "men", and sooner or later at least one person chooses to make the issue an emotional one, about bitter revenge rather than simply achieving a necessary goal. It is much better to strive for equality, which places no undue emphasis on either sex, and can truly ensure that eventually both sexes will be regarded as totally equal. Now, of course not all gender-related issues are merely political, I would say the most severe ones in the Western world are social ones, which can be corrected overtime by bringing up children in an environment where neither sex is discriminated against. As I already said, you cannot force somebody to think a certain way, which makes this very difficult. The very best I can do is continue to not discriminate, harshly criticize people who do, and if I ever have children raise them to not be bigots.

Do you see now why some of us are irritated that you choose to bring up emotionally fueled arguments about women having it bad? We know, it just wasn't what was being discussed at the time and there is very little we can do about it.
10-24-2013, 09:29 AM
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Gender - by Paddy™ - 10-22-2013, 12:58 PM
RE: Gender - by The chaser - 10-22-2013, 01:09 PM
RE: Gender - by PutraenusAlivius - 10-22-2013, 01:22 PM
RE: Gender - by Nice - 10-22-2013, 01:51 PM
RE: Gender - by FlawlessHappiness - 10-22-2013, 02:45 PM
RE: Gender - by Nice - 10-22-2013, 03:15 PM
RE: Gender - by Mechavomit - 10-22-2013, 04:18 PM
RE: Gender - by MyRedNeptune - 10-22-2013, 11:08 PM
RE: Gender - by Ashtoreth - 10-25-2013, 09:19 AM
RE: Gender - by Ghieri - 10-22-2013, 04:42 PM
RE: Gender - by Froge - 10-22-2013, 09:15 PM
RE: Gender - by Mechavomit - 10-22-2013, 11:41 PM
RE: Gender - by Kman - 10-22-2013, 11:54 PM
RE: Gender - by Nice - 10-23-2013, 01:31 PM
RE: Gender - by Kman - 10-23-2013, 11:49 PM
RE: Gender - by VaeVictis - 10-23-2013, 12:33 AM
RE: Gender - by failedALIAS - 10-23-2013, 05:43 AM
RE: Gender - by VaeVictis - 10-23-2013, 05:51 AM
RE: Gender - by Alardem - 10-23-2013, 04:19 AM
RE: Gender - by VaeVictis - 10-23-2013, 04:26 AM
RE: Gender - by Tiger - 10-23-2013, 09:08 AM
RE: Gender - by Kreekakon - 10-23-2013, 07:41 AM
RE: Gender - by Paddy™ - 10-23-2013, 11:59 AM
RE: Gender - by Bridge - 10-23-2013, 05:07 PM
RE: Gender - by VaeVictis - 10-24-2013, 03:40 AM
RE: Gender - by Bridge - 10-24-2013, 09:29 AM
RE: Gender - by VaeVictis - 10-24-2013, 10:26 AM
RE: Gender - by Bridge - 10-24-2013, 02:04 PM
RE: Gender - by VaeVictis - 10-24-2013, 02:29 PM
RE: Gender - by Ashtoreth - 10-24-2013, 03:16 PM
RE: Gender - by Paddy™ - 10-24-2013, 03:21 PM
RE: Gender - by Bridge - 10-24-2013, 05:09 PM
RE: Gender - by VaeVictis - 10-25-2013, 01:53 AM
RE: Gender - by Bridge - 10-25-2013, 02:59 PM
RE: Gender - by Paddy™ - 10-26-2013, 06:25 PM
RE: Gender - by Bridge - 10-26-2013, 06:55 PM
RE: Gender - by Paddy™ - 10-27-2013, 12:30 AM
RE: Gender - by Paddy™ - 10-24-2013, 10:34 PM
RE: Gender - by failedALIAS - 10-23-2013, 06:04 AM
RE: Gender - by Ghieri - 10-23-2013, 06:18 AM
RE: Gender - by VaeVictis - 10-23-2013, 09:24 AM
RE: Gender - by Paddy™ - 10-23-2013, 08:21 AM
RE: Gender - by Acies - 10-23-2013, 05:52 PM
RE: Gender - by imgoneimdead - 10-23-2013, 06:39 PM
RE: Gender - by CarnivorousJelly - 10-24-2013, 12:41 AM
RE: Gender - by PutraenusAlivius - 10-24-2013, 02:51 PM
RE: Gender - by Nice - 10-24-2013, 02:55 PM
RE: Gender - by PutraenusAlivius - 10-24-2013, 03:02 PM
RE: Gender - by Nice - 10-24-2013, 03:37 PM
RE: Gender - by Mechavomit - 10-24-2013, 05:37 PM
RE: Gender - by Kman - 10-25-2013, 12:27 AM
RE: Gender - by Paddy™ - 10-25-2013, 12:43 AM
RE: Gender - by Kman - 10-25-2013, 01:27 AM
RE: Gender - by Paddy™ - 10-25-2013, 02:33 AM
RE: Gender - by Cuyir - 10-24-2013, 09:47 PM
RE: Gender - by Ghieri - 10-25-2013, 03:18 AM
RE: Gender - by Alardem - 10-25-2013, 04:50 AM
RE: Gender - by Paddy™ - 10-25-2013, 05:32 AM
RE: Gender - by Alardem - 10-25-2013, 05:55 AM
RE: Gender - by Paddy™ - 10-25-2013, 06:36 AM
RE: Gender - by VaeVictis - 10-25-2013, 07:07 AM
RE: Gender - by VaeVictis - 10-25-2013, 09:58 AM
RE: Gender - by Ashtoreth - 10-25-2013, 10:06 AM
RE: Gender - by VaeVictis - 10-25-2013, 10:34 AM
RE: Gender - by Ashtoreth - 10-25-2013, 10:45 AM
RE: Gender - by PutraenusAlivius - 10-25-2013, 12:33 PM
RE: Gender - by VaeVictis - 10-26-2013, 02:53 AM
RE: Gender - by Mechavomit - 10-25-2013, 11:22 PM
RE: Gender - by MyRedNeptune - 10-26-2013, 12:20 AM
RE: Gender - by Paddy™ - 10-26-2013, 09:38 AM
RE: Gender - by PutraenusAlivius - 10-26-2013, 12:41 AM
RE: Gender - by Bridge - 10-26-2013, 12:54 AM
RE: Gender - by Mechavomit - 10-26-2013, 01:01 AM
RE: Gender - by PutraenusAlivius - 10-26-2013, 02:38 AM
RE: Gender - by Kman - 10-26-2013, 02:50 AM
RE: Gender - by Kman - 10-26-2013, 04:12 AM
RE: Gender - by Froge - 10-26-2013, 04:54 AM
RE: Gender - by Kreekakon - 10-26-2013, 10:42 AM
RE: Gender - by Cuyir - 10-26-2013, 09:35 PM
RE: Gender - by Bridge - 10-27-2013, 02:20 PM
RE: Gender - by Paddy™ - 10-27-2013, 04:59 PM
RE: Gender - by Paddy™ - 11-01-2013, 06:50 AM
RE: Gender - by VaeVictis - 11-01-2013, 07:09 AM
RE: Gender - by Paddy™ - 11-01-2013, 07:03 PM
RE: Gender - by Cuyir - 11-01-2013, 04:57 PM
RE: Gender - by wubwub - 03-03-2014, 05:22 PM
RE: Gender - by Kreekakon - 03-03-2014, 05:32 PM



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