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RE: Gender

(11-01-2013, 06:50 AM)Paddy™ Wrote: You keep offering reasons for being a feminist which don't have anything to do with feminism. If you're being groped or harassed or discredited you don't need to adopt an ideology. Wanting to see justice and equality for women isn't the same as being a feminist, this is where we seem to diverge. I want to see an end to drug addiction, but that doesn't require me to sign up with Scientology and "go clear" in the process. I see feminism as much of the same thing; well-meaning people being funnelled into a cultish movement which proclaims itself to be the only solution.

Saying that a man is "privileged" is indeed an insult when you're rattling off soundbites like "check yo' privilege" in debates. Saying things like that is a way of undermining the position of the males you're talking to. When people say "check yo' privilege" they generally don't do it with a soft, kind voice and a sympathetic tone. They use it as an insult.

EDIT: the post to which I replied is now gone. That'll teach me to take a dump mid-post XD

I'm sorry! Blush I was editing the post and clicked the wrong button...

It still requires movement on the part of the society toward a change in attitudes. Because statistically, whatever I did experience isn't unique, it's extremely common and is a symptom of a much larger problem. Which means there needs to be a goal, a focus and a purposeful movement and shift in attitudes. I mean, hurray for humanism, but feminism isn't as vague and has a goal in mind: equality.
I tried to be kind in presenting privilege before (if I came off as abrasive, I apologize, I was honestly just trying be less formal), only to be referred to as extreme and radical and psuedo-feminist and revenge motivated (then referred to as over-emotional when I reacted). Privilege is a simple sociological term that few in the field argue about. Can we just be clear on that?

11-01-2013, 07:09 AM
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Gender - by Paddy™ - 10-22-2013, 12:58 PM
RE: Gender - by The chaser - 10-22-2013, 01:09 PM
RE: Gender - by PutraenusAlivius - 10-22-2013, 01:22 PM
RE: Gender - by Nice - 10-22-2013, 01:51 PM
RE: Gender - by FlawlessHappiness - 10-22-2013, 02:45 PM
RE: Gender - by Nice - 10-22-2013, 03:15 PM
RE: Gender - by Mechavomit - 10-22-2013, 04:18 PM
RE: Gender - by MyRedNeptune - 10-22-2013, 11:08 PM
RE: Gender - by Ashtoreth - 10-25-2013, 09:19 AM
RE: Gender - by Ghieri - 10-22-2013, 04:42 PM
RE: Gender - by Froge - 10-22-2013, 09:15 PM
RE: Gender - by Mechavomit - 10-22-2013, 11:41 PM
RE: Gender - by Kman - 10-22-2013, 11:54 PM
RE: Gender - by Nice - 10-23-2013, 01:31 PM
RE: Gender - by Kman - 10-23-2013, 11:49 PM
RE: Gender - by VaeVictis - 10-23-2013, 12:33 AM
RE: Gender - by failedALIAS - 10-23-2013, 05:43 AM
RE: Gender - by VaeVictis - 10-23-2013, 05:51 AM
RE: Gender - by Alardem - 10-23-2013, 04:19 AM
RE: Gender - by VaeVictis - 10-23-2013, 04:26 AM
RE: Gender - by Tiger - 10-23-2013, 09:08 AM
RE: Gender - by Kreekakon - 10-23-2013, 07:41 AM
RE: Gender - by Paddy™ - 10-23-2013, 11:59 AM
RE: Gender - by Bridge - 10-23-2013, 05:07 PM
RE: Gender - by VaeVictis - 10-24-2013, 03:40 AM
RE: Gender - by Bridge - 10-24-2013, 09:29 AM
RE: Gender - by VaeVictis - 10-24-2013, 10:26 AM
RE: Gender - by Bridge - 10-24-2013, 02:04 PM
RE: Gender - by VaeVictis - 10-24-2013, 02:29 PM
RE: Gender - by Ashtoreth - 10-24-2013, 03:16 PM
RE: Gender - by Paddy™ - 10-24-2013, 03:21 PM
RE: Gender - by Bridge - 10-24-2013, 05:09 PM
RE: Gender - by VaeVictis - 10-25-2013, 01:53 AM
RE: Gender - by Bridge - 10-25-2013, 02:59 PM
RE: Gender - by Paddy™ - 10-26-2013, 06:25 PM
RE: Gender - by Bridge - 10-26-2013, 06:55 PM
RE: Gender - by Paddy™ - 10-27-2013, 12:30 AM
RE: Gender - by Paddy™ - 10-24-2013, 10:34 PM
RE: Gender - by failedALIAS - 10-23-2013, 06:04 AM
RE: Gender - by Ghieri - 10-23-2013, 06:18 AM
RE: Gender - by VaeVictis - 10-23-2013, 09:24 AM
RE: Gender - by Paddy™ - 10-23-2013, 08:21 AM
RE: Gender - by Acies - 10-23-2013, 05:52 PM
RE: Gender - by imgoneimdead - 10-23-2013, 06:39 PM
RE: Gender - by CarnivorousJelly - 10-24-2013, 12:41 AM
RE: Gender - by PutraenusAlivius - 10-24-2013, 02:51 PM
RE: Gender - by Nice - 10-24-2013, 02:55 PM
RE: Gender - by PutraenusAlivius - 10-24-2013, 03:02 PM
RE: Gender - by Nice - 10-24-2013, 03:37 PM
RE: Gender - by Mechavomit - 10-24-2013, 05:37 PM
RE: Gender - by Kman - 10-25-2013, 12:27 AM
RE: Gender - by Paddy™ - 10-25-2013, 12:43 AM
RE: Gender - by Kman - 10-25-2013, 01:27 AM
RE: Gender - by Paddy™ - 10-25-2013, 02:33 AM
RE: Gender - by Cuyir - 10-24-2013, 09:47 PM
RE: Gender - by Ghieri - 10-25-2013, 03:18 AM
RE: Gender - by Alardem - 10-25-2013, 04:50 AM
RE: Gender - by Paddy™ - 10-25-2013, 05:32 AM
RE: Gender - by Alardem - 10-25-2013, 05:55 AM
RE: Gender - by Paddy™ - 10-25-2013, 06:36 AM
RE: Gender - by VaeVictis - 10-25-2013, 07:07 AM
RE: Gender - by VaeVictis - 10-25-2013, 09:58 AM
RE: Gender - by Ashtoreth - 10-25-2013, 10:06 AM
RE: Gender - by VaeVictis - 10-25-2013, 10:34 AM
RE: Gender - by Ashtoreth - 10-25-2013, 10:45 AM
RE: Gender - by PutraenusAlivius - 10-25-2013, 12:33 PM
RE: Gender - by VaeVictis - 10-26-2013, 02:53 AM
RE: Gender - by Mechavomit - 10-25-2013, 11:22 PM
RE: Gender - by MyRedNeptune - 10-26-2013, 12:20 AM
RE: Gender - by Paddy™ - 10-26-2013, 09:38 AM
RE: Gender - by PutraenusAlivius - 10-26-2013, 12:41 AM
RE: Gender - by Bridge - 10-26-2013, 12:54 AM
RE: Gender - by Mechavomit - 10-26-2013, 01:01 AM
RE: Gender - by PutraenusAlivius - 10-26-2013, 02:38 AM
RE: Gender - by Kman - 10-26-2013, 02:50 AM
RE: Gender - by Kman - 10-26-2013, 04:12 AM
RE: Gender - by Froge - 10-26-2013, 04:54 AM
RE: Gender - by Kreekakon - 10-26-2013, 10:42 AM
RE: Gender - by Cuyir - 10-26-2013, 09:35 PM
RE: Gender - by Bridge - 10-27-2013, 02:20 PM
RE: Gender - by Paddy™ - 10-27-2013, 04:59 PM
RE: Gender - by Paddy™ - 11-01-2013, 06:50 AM
RE: Gender - by VaeVictis - 11-01-2013, 07:09 AM
RE: Gender - by Paddy™ - 11-01-2013, 07:03 PM
RE: Gender - by Cuyir - 11-01-2013, 04:57 PM
RE: Gender - by wubwub - 03-03-2014, 05:22 PM
RE: Gender - by Kreekakon - 03-03-2014, 05:32 PM



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