Religion

[BAndrew]

Isaiah, you have load of references where it marks the surface as a circle
(I am not exactly sure what's your point here.)
I cant comment those two examples because doesnt "across it" mean just through the whole thing?

"Clay under a seal" - No idea what that means, or what clay means.

BAndrew, when you're reading a book, how do you decide what is literal or what is not?

edit- my final reply for today, I'm exhausted

I explained what's the problem with them.

Across it:

If they thought the Earth was a sphere, they would say "around it" not "across" it.

Clay thing:
Clay when stamped under a seal is flattened and round in shape.
In other words this implies that Earth is flat.

When I read a book it is clear what is literal and what is not. But in the bible apparently it isn't.

For example look at more ridiculous claims. Although I know that no matter what, you are always going to say that "It doesn't mean it literally". But after all if nothing is literal then probably Bible is a literature book. So let's go:

1.The Earth has pillars
"He shakes the earth from its place and makes its pillars tremble. (From the NIV Bible, Job 9:6)"

"Where were you when I laid the earth's foundation? Tell me, if you understand. (From the NIV Bible, Job 38:4)"

2. The Earth has edges

"that it might take the earth by the edges and shake the wicked out of it? (From the NIV Bible, Job 38:13)"

"He unleashes his lightning beneath the whole heaven and sends it to the ends of the earth. (From the NIV Bible, Job 37:3)"

"for he views the ends of the earth and sees everything under the heavens. (From the NIV Bible, Job 28:24)"


+More (See my post above)
3. The flat Earth is established and can never move. The Sun hurries back to where it rises.

"He set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved. (From the NIV Bible, Psalm 104:5)"

"The LORD reigns, he is robed in majesty; the LORD is robed in majesty and is armed with strength. The world [The deceiving translators should've said "earth", not "world"] is firmly established; it cannot be moved. (From the NIV Bible, Psalm 93:1)"

"Say among the nations, "The LORD reigns." The world [Again, the deceiving translators should've said "earth", not "world"] is firmly established, it cannot be moved; he will judge the peoples with equity. (From the NIV Bible, Psalm 96:10)"

"The sun rises and the sun sets, and hurries back to where it rises. (From the NIV Bible, Ecclesiastes 1:5)"

"Their measure is longer than the earth and wider than the sea. (From the NIV Bible, Job 11:9)"


4. The Earth is a flat circle or there is a flat circle above the Earth

"He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in." (From the NIV Bible, Isaiah 40:22)



Conclusion:

The Bible not only fails to claim that the Earth is spherical-shaped, but it also claims in numerous verses as shown above that the Earth is flat, has Edges, has Four Corners, has Pillars, and has Foundations. Unless nothing in it is literal of course.

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Dogfood, is god all-knowing?

See a couple of pages (I think 2) back. We discussed this.