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Amnesia Custom Story: Guide to Horror / Do's and Don't for Scaring Players
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RE: Amnesia Custom Story: Guide to Horror / Do's and Don't for Scaring Players


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(04-20-2012, 09:46 PM)Robosprog Wrote: Humour can't be in anything but things that you consider appropriate?

I see. Somehow you don't get that ridicule or other hurtful things, is something wrong.



Quote:Humour in scary situations is far better because you get to see them crap themselves later on, and if you say it damages horror at all, then you do not understand what a horror game is.

Horror isn't about jumpscares and screamers. You have completely failed at understanding horror.



Quote:So, what you're saying is that because he uses his style of humour to entertain people he doesn't care for the horror community?

With the exception of PDP fans, people making horror stories often put a lot of time and effort in making a serious story that is free from sex-jokes and memes. They do this because they want the players to appreciate this mood - not mock it. A player who mocks it, even for a minute, doesn't care about it. The player is expected to immerse himself with a serious mindset. This isn't personal opinion - this is fact. If you're "of a different opinion", then you're wrong.



Quote:Um.
Have you ever considered that he does, and has stated he'd rather play serious maps?

Wanting to play serious maps, is both far from actually playing them, and far from not ridiculing them as well. He's playing Siren right now, and he doesn't care about that game either. In the escort missions, does he care about the person he's escorting? Not one bit, because PDP isn't a person who cares. I've already declared that he's a psychopath, and I stand by that. Why you understand him is probably because you're a psychopath as well. You don't get why plight should be taken seriously either.



Quote:Humour is what he's about, if you want to watch a lets play of a horror game on youtube that isn't trying to be humorous.. well, good luck with that. Because let's plays are nowadays more of having funny commentaries over your gameplay.

There are lots of serious LPs of horror games as well, that do horror games justice. Is "everybody is doing it" supposed to be a justification?



Quote:He plays serious stuff seriously and is scared, you can tell. He has a face cam, look at it, in a few good custom maps and games he's terrified!

No, he's not. The only time where PDP is scared nowadays, is when he's directly assaulted by a jumpscare or an immediate threat - the mindset of a psychopath.



Quote:His funny commentary is to reassure himself aswell as being humorous to his fans.

Exactly: He's reassuring himself, trying to lighten a mood that's supposed to be dark and scary. He's ruining the horror, and sucking up to fans isn't an excuse.



Quote:Saying humour can't be present in horror is stupid because it is already there.
Go back to when you first were in the prison in amnesia, no doubt, at least once, you tried to reassure yourself by messing around, making a snarky comment or trying to point things out. It is human nature to reassure yourself in situations of terror - all these people do is voice it, and apparently it has no place in horror games?
Please.

Never once have I joked around or tried to reassure myself. Horror is serious business, and if you're not mature enough to face it, then there's always other games available.



Quote:And besides, these are your views that you are stating as fact, none of which are. I can go ahead and say that humour in horror is funnier than say, red vs blue's humour. (If you don't know what machinima that is, go watch the first few seasons - the best machinima has ever been) Does that make it true? Not really. The one thing that I think is true without a doubt is that reassuring yourself humorously or not is human nature in this post.
Your opinion isn't fact. Stop voicing it as if it is.

Relativism can only take you so far. Would horror games be intended to be humourous, it would include lots of puns. The nature that you're describing, is the nature of psychopathy: That not even torture of innocent people needs to be taken seriously. You're welcome to be a psychopath, because it's hard to cure, but it's not normal human nature.


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RE: Amnesia Custom Story: Guide to Horror / Do's and Don't for Scaring Players

When ever PDP try to play a serious CS or a serious horror game, he doesn't immerse himself and get terrified of the atmosphere he just jokes around and doesn't care about the gameplay and he only get scared by the jumpscares. He doesn't care about the games and CS's. That's why he always plays CS's with jumpscares for an example. And he have tried White Night but didn't want to play it since it were a story based CS with little to none jumpscares so he trashed it and gave up on it.

So when I make a CS I don't want PDP to play it since I want a serious player to play it not someone who doesn't care about it and just want something to make a video from.

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Hum.. I didn't knew there was something about this around.

Today I dreamt the life I could live forever. You only know that when you feel it for you know not what you like until you've experienced it.
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(04-22-2012, 06:34 PM)nemesis567 Wrote: Hum.. I didn't knew there was something about this around.
lol wat

Also, on a somewhat serious note, why is flaming allowed on these forums? I feel like on most other forums two people caught flaming or at least arguing with each other in any form other than a good scholarly debate would be immediately moderated, regardless of what they're arguing about or who may or may not actually be right. After skimming the last few pages of posts, honestly all I could really see was people arguing and insulting each other (and also other people outside the argument). Personally, I don't really feel like the "Development Articles" section of a forum is the place to do this kind of thing, and I'm a honestly a bit surprised that it's allowed to continue in such a manor.

I don't mean to back seat moderate or anything, as I don't really see myself as holding any particular kind of authority, but this kind of thing seems to have been going on for quite a while (and not just in this particular place) and I'm honestly a quite sick of it. I really don't care too much about what random people on the internet have to say about things that I already have opinions about - sure I am perfectly willing to read a differing opinion and consider it, but I'm not about to get all hot and bothered by it if it doesn't seem to match my own, and I'm certainly not about to start trying to argue with someone that I don't even know just because I don't agree to said opinion. Fine, I might not agree with a particular opinion, but I don't subscribe to the ideology that I have a duty to eradicate any all opinions differing from my own. In fact, unless it will somehow add to the diversity of ideas in some benevolent way, I generally do not even state that I have a differing opinion as such statements only tend to spiral downwards into what this thread seems to have now become.

I guess I just wanted to say that I'm a bit disappointed in what this thread has turned into, and how I've seen many people on this forum act recently.

~Homicide out.

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RE: Amnesia Custom Story: Guide to Horror / Do's and Don't for Scaring Players

So much text in the last two big replies. I don't have time to read most of it, so I won't reply to much of it either.
I will say that we weren't "flaming". We had a "scholary debate". It's funny how the only difference between the two expressions, is if I was mad or not.
The debate tied back to the topic in that if you want to make something scary, don't tailor it to suit psychopath players. Don't make your story a "murder funhouse".


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RE: Amnesia Custom Story: Guide to Horror / Do's and Don't for Scaring Players

If your post is really long, can you please the ENTIRE THING in spoiler tags? Thanks.
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