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Texture, Model & Animation Help Slime textures
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Slime textures

Hello there, mates! 0/

I have encountered a problem: I'm a big fan of monsters, especially of Dead Space-like monsters. I'm making one by myself, and I would like that it's organic part (there's a mechanical) was similar to dead space monsters.

References:

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20...iathan.jpg

http://leviathyn.com/wp-content/uploads/...1/ds32.jpg

http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/orig...een016.jpg

http://main.makeuseoflimited.netdna-cdn....space.jpeg

Especially the first and last photo are the effect I'm searching for. I have tried using the slime texture from Amnesia, but it doesn't look quite like I want.

Do you guys know how to create the type of textures the monsters have, or what basis can I use to make one like it?

Also, I'm curious: How were the slime textures created?

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10-06-2013, 02:41 PM
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RE: Slime textures

All the details that are not actual geometry were likely sculpted into a high polygon version of the monster, before being baked into a normal map. The shiny, slimy look to the flesh is probably achieved with a very bright specular map (to give it that "wetness") , which you can make from your diffuse texture.

The best way to get those lumps and awesome gross details is to first bring your character into a sculpting program, and sculpt away until you've got a a high detail mesh ready to be baked to your low poly mesh.
10-06-2013, 10:46 PM
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RE: Slime textures

AMFP had a lot of goop laying around at some parts. Might be worth spelunking through their textures.

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10-07-2013, 02:23 PM
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RE: Slime textures

(10-06-2013, 10:46 PM)JonnyAnomaly Wrote: All the details that are not actual geometry were likely sculpted into a high polygon version of the monster, before being baked into a normal map. The shiny, slimy look to the flesh is probably achieved with a very bright specular map (to give it that "wetness") , which you can make from your diffuse texture.

The best way to get those lumps and awesome gross details is to first bring your character into a sculpting program, and sculpt away until you've got a a high detail mesh ready to be baked to your low poly mesh.

I see... a program like ZBrush, I guess. Yeah, I have played a lot with the slime texture, quite useful for stuff. The specular map is very important to give the look it has Smile

I was referring more to the diffuse texture itself, not the normal and specular, but thanks anyways! Smile


(10-07-2013, 02:23 PM)DeAngelo Wrote: AMFP had a lot of goop laying around at some parts. Might be worth spelunking through their textures.

err, I haven't played AAMFP yet, and I don't want to spoil myself with stuff... I might look forward to it in a future, though Smile

This is my monster: It's going to appear in one of my stories, ONLY SEE IF GOING TO HELP, OTHERWISE KEEP OUT:


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10-07-2013, 09:27 PM
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RE: Slime textures

(10-07-2013, 09:27 PM)The chaser Wrote:
(10-06-2013, 10:46 PM)JonnyAnomaly Wrote: All the details that are not actual geometry were likely sculpted into a high polygon version of the monster, before being baked into a normal map. The shiny, slimy look to the flesh is probably achieved with a very bright specular map (to give it that "wetness") , which you can make from your diffuse texture.

The best way to get those lumps and awesome gross details is to first bring your character into a sculpting program, and sculpt away until you've got a a high detail mesh ready to be baked to your low poly mesh.

I see... a program like ZBrush, I guess. Yeah, I have played a lot with the slime texture, quite useful for stuff. The specular map is very important to give the look it has Smile

I was referring more to the diffuse texture itself, not the normal and specular, but thanks anyways! Smile


(10-07-2013, 02:23 PM)DeAngelo Wrote: AMFP had a lot of goop laying around at some parts. Might be worth spelunking through their textures.

err, I haven't played AAMFP yet, and I don't want to spoil myself with stuff... I might look forward to it in a future, though Smile

This is my monster: It's going to appear in one of my stories, ONLY SEE IF GOING TO HELP, OTHERWISE KEEP OUT:


Spoiler below!

I think he should be wearing a gas mask. I dunno why, I just see a gas mask when I look at his eyes.


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10-07-2013, 11:04 PM
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RE: Slime textures

(10-07-2013, 11:04 PM)DeAngelo Wrote:
(10-07-2013, 09:27 PM)The chaser Wrote:
(10-06-2013, 10:46 PM)JonnyAnomaly Wrote: All the details that are not actual geometry were likely sculpted into a high polygon version of the monster, before being baked into a normal map. The shiny, slimy look to the flesh is probably achieved with a very bright specular map (to give it that "wetness") , which you can make from your diffuse texture.

The best way to get those lumps and awesome gross details is to first bring your character into a sculpting program, and sculpt away until you've got a a high detail mesh ready to be baked to your low poly mesh.

I see... a program like ZBrush, I guess. Yeah, I have played a lot with the slime texture, quite useful for stuff. The specular map is very important to give the look it has Smile

I was referring more to the diffuse texture itself, not the normal and specular, but thanks anyways! Smile


(10-07-2013, 02:23 PM)DeAngelo Wrote: AMFP had a lot of goop laying around at some parts. Might be worth spelunking through their textures.

err, I haven't played AAMFP yet, and I don't want to spoil myself with stuff... I might look forward to it in a future, though Smile

This is my monster: It's going to appear in one of my stories, ONLY SEE IF GOING TO HELP, OTHERWISE KEEP OUT:


Spoiler below!

I think he should be wearing a gas mask. I dunno why, I just see a gas mask when I look at his eyes.


Hey, good idea! I'll model it later, let's see how it looks Smile

As you can see, I'm a lot better in modelling than texturing, so if someone has an idea to improve my monster, please tell it!

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10-08-2013, 06:39 AM
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RE: Slime textures

Have you or are you going to animate him yourself?
10-09-2013, 08:48 PM
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(10-09-2013, 08:48 PM)JonnyAnomaly Wrote: Have you or are you going to animate him yourself?

At first I thought that I should P.M a maya pro to put him the grunt animations, but now that I know that Blender animations work with the update, I'll see how does YourComputer do it and then I'll run some tests, if it works, I'll do the animations myself Smile

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10-09-2013, 09:02 PM
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RE: Slime textures

Curiosity killed the cat and now I have to contribute/attempt to help somehow:

I *think* I might have a slight suggestion for the slime-texture that may help. It's more about the actual details of the texture used rather than how to implement it (since I don't know how myself), so if that's not what you were asking, ignore me :)
Spoiler below!

Obviously modeling is not my forte (I'm a 2D artist), so feel free to take what I say with a grain of salt:

The texture you're using currently is the slime model from ATDD, right? The reason it doesn't look 'quite right' if you're going for something very similar to a dead-space monster is that it's too smooth looking: skin is imperfect - there are pores (pores/texture is the main one) and wrinkles, scars, and creases to it, but the slime you're using as a texture has no skin flaws, so it look more like very wet clay than a slimy monster. I'm not saying your model itself isn't detailed - the choice of texture is just undetailed.

For comparison, look at the second image link you posted (or this one, which is also a dead-space monster) - the thing still looks slimy, but you can see the texture of its 'skin' - the holes and tears, pores, and creases - which is a lot of detail, but it's what is causing that effect (rather than looking like a red version of this).

So, based on that, I would probably recommend starting with the grunt's skin texture and messing around with it until you get the high-shine, wet, slimy look, rather than forging all that detail out of the slime :D Also on that topic, I believe there is more than one texture for the slime, a few of which are less 'gooey' looking and more textured (used for the slime_egg models I believe).

Anyways, best of luck to you and I certainly hope your monster turns out! c: It's looking great so far and I'm really excited about your custom story too :D


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10-13-2013, 06:51 AM
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(10-13-2013, 06:51 AM)Kia Wrote: Curiosity killed the cat and now I have to contribute/attempt to help somehow:

I *think* I might have a slight suggestion for the slime-texture that may help. It's more about the actual details of the texture used rather than how to implement it (since I don't know how myself), so if that's not what you were asking, ignore me Smile
Spoiler below!

Obviously modeling is not my forte (I'm a 2D artist), so feel free to take what I say with a grain of salt:

The texture you're using currently is the slime model from ATDD, right? The reason it doesn't look 'quite right' if you're going for something very similar to a dead-space monster is that it's too smooth looking: skin is imperfect - there are pores (pores/texture is the main one) and wrinkles, scars, and creases to it, but the slime you're using as a texture has no skin flaws, so it look more like very wet clay than a slimy monster. I'm not saying your model itself isn't detailed - the choice of texture is just undetailed.

For comparison, look at the second image link you posted (or this one, which is also a dead-space monster) - the thing still looks slimy, but you can see the texture of its 'skin' - the holes and tears, pores, and creases - which is a lot of detail, but it's what is causing that effect (rather than looking like a red version of this).

So, based on that, I would probably recommend starting with the grunt's skin texture and messing around with it until you get the high-shine, wet, slimy look, rather than forging all that detail out of the slime Big Grin Also on that topic, I believe there is more than one texture for the slime, a few of which are less 'gooey' looking and more textured (used for the slime_egg models I believe).

Anyways, best of luck to you and I certainly hope your monster turns out! c: It's looking great so far and I'm really excited about your custom story too Big Grin


EXACTLY what I needed, Kiandra, many thanks! Smile I'll get some portions of the grunt skin and I'll apply it to my slime (and viceversa). I do modelling okay, but I suck a texturing, so thanks.

EDIT: I just realized Kiandra's avatar is a slow gif...

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